Слухи о кодексе Хаоса, часть 2

[mizer_lalenkh]

Полностью информация по байкерам звучит так:

Описание:

- Болтпистоль + оружие ближнего боя или болтер + оружие ближнего боя

- Фраг и крак(?) гранаты

Опции:

- различное спецвооружение

- одна из Икон Богов на выбор за x пунктов

...(Марка Нургла - самая дорогая и даёт байкеру W4(6))

- Чемпион

Особые правила:

- Мотоциклы

Больше никаких данных, возможно, не вся инфа..

Изменено 20 июня, 2007 пользователем mizer_lalenkh

[monsieur Hereticus]

Гвардия смерти радует все больше и больше.

А зачем им выбор бп+ццв\болтер+ццвесли у них как бы тру грит,или его убрали?

Плачь :( Его убрали

[Амфицион]

может я совсем тупой по утрам, но ТОГДА ЧТО ЗНАЧИТ это сокральное Болтер + ЦЦВ - "легализация базовой атаки" в ближнем бою?

Что-то чем дальше смотришь, тем больше понимаешь что инфа немного эээ сыровата...

[wasted]

Перевод с WarSeer...

HQ:

- Chaos Lord (no limit in number, you can have 0, 1 or 2)

WS 5 | BS 5 | S 4 | T 4 | W 3 | I 5 | A 3 | Ld 10 | Sv 3+/5+

Wargear:

- CCW + BP

- daemonic Aura (5+ invulnarable)

Options:

- can exchange the CCW+BP for 40 Points with a Daemonic Weapon (+D6 attacks, twohanded power-weapon)

........- when you roll a 1 for the additional attacks, you lose one wound and the lord cant attack (also counts for shooting)

........- unmarked Bonus: +1S

........- Khorne-Bonus: +2D6 instead of +1D6

........- Slaanesh-Bonus: Autokill

........- Tzeentch-Bonus: can also shoot with the following profile:S4, AP 3, Assault W6

........- Nurgle-Bonus: wounds on 4+ or better

- can replace the CCW with one of the following weapons:

........- Power-Fist

........- Chain-Fist (with Terminator armour only)

........- Power-Weapon

........- Lightning Claw

- can replace the BP with one of the following weapons:

........- Kombibolter

........- Bolter-Melter

- can replace the CCW & BP with one of the following weapons:

........- pair of Lightning Claws

- Terminator armour (--> no bike, wings or steed)

- Bike

- steed

........- palanquin of nurgle (+1A, +1W) - counts as 2 in LR

........- Juggernaut of Khorne (+1S, +1A) - counts as 2 in LR

........- disc of Tzeentch (Wings)

........- steed of Slaanesh (cavalry)

- an icon of the gods

- Wings

- personal Icon

Special Rules:

- independent Character

- fearless

- Daemon Prince (110 Pts) (no limit in number, you can have 0, 1 or 2)

WS 7 | BS 3 | S 6 | T 5 | W 4 | I 5 | A 4 | Ld 10 | Dv 3+ / 5+

Wargear :

- one CCW

- daemonic Aura (5+ invulnarable)

Options:

- Wings for 25 Pts

- one chaos icon for 15 Pts

- several PSI-powers

- personal icon

Special Rules:

- monstr. Creature

- immune to instant death

- fearless

- Chaos Sorcerer (no limit in number, you can have 0, 1 or 2)

WS 5 | BS 5 | S 4 | T 4 | W 2 | I 5 | A 3 | LD 10 | SV 3+

Wargear :

- Forceweapon

- daemonic Aura (5+ Invulnerable)

- PSI-Kräfte:

........- Blitz des Tzeentch (S8, DS1)

........- Slaanesh: Lash of Submission

........- Fäulnis des Nurgle (12", trifft jedes Modell des Trupps auf 4+, S3, SVs erlaubt)

........- Strahl des Verderbens (S4, DS3)

........- Warp Time (lässt alle Treffer- und VeSvundungswürfe im NK wiederholen)

Options:

- Terminator armour (--> no bike, wings or steed)

- Bike

- Wings

- steed (see chaos lord)

- one chaos icon

- personal icon

Special Rules:

- UCM

- fearless

- Greater Daemon (takes no HQ-Slot, RIDICULOUS CHEAP!)

WS 9 | BS ? | S 8 | T 6 | W 4 | I 5 | A ? | LD 10 | SV -/4+

Wargear :

- unknown

Options:

- no options

Special Rules:

- Summoning (see completely below)

- monstr. creature

- fearless

ELITE:

- Chaos Rhino, 35 Pts (transport)

Wargear :

- Smoke launcher

- Search light

Options:

- extra armour (15 Pts)

- daemonic possession

- Combibolter

........- can be upgraded to a Bolter-Melter or Bolter-Flamer

Special Rules:

- repair

- Possessed (cheaper than 22 Pts)

Wargear :

- claws (2 CCW)

- daem. strength (= S5)

- daem. Aura (5+ invulnerable)

Options:

- one chaos icon

- Champion

- Chaos Rhino

Special Rules:

- throw D6 for special abilities (after deployment):

1: Scouts

2: Furious Charge

3: Fleet of foot

4: rending

5: feel no pain

6: Power weapons

- Chosen

Wargear:

- BP + CCW, or Bolter + CCW

- frag and crack grenades

Options:

- an immense amount of options (different CC and ballistic weapons - max. 1 heavy weapon)

- one chaos icon

- Champion

- Chaos Rhino

- Chaos Land Raider

Special Rules:

- infiltrate

- Terminators (squad of 3 to 10 - under 35 Pts)

Wargear:

- Combibolter and power weapon

Options:

- one chaos icon

- each Terminator can be upgraded to a Champion for 10 Pts (--> +1A, nothing else)

- one single terminator can replace his combibolter with a RAC or a heavy flamer

- if the squad consists of 10 members, another terminator can replace his combibolter with a RAC or a heavy flamer

- each terminator can replace his combibolter with one of the following weapons:

........- Bolter-Melter

........- Bolter-Flammer

- each terminator can replace his power weapon with one of the following weapons:

........- powerfist

........- chainfist

- Chaos Land Raider

Special Rules:

- can always deep strike, also when the mission doesn’t explicitly allow it

- Cybot (unchanged to the actual one)

Wargear:

- Cybot-CCW with Combibolter

Options:

- second Cybot-CCW

- heavy weapon (MM, PC, synch. LK, synch. AC, synch. HB)

Special Rules:

- Fire frenzy (slightly changed)

TROOPS:

- Chaos Space Marines

Wargear:

- BP + CCW + Bolter (yes, all 3 weapons --> +1A in CC and all other benefits)

- frag and krak grenades

Options:

- one single CSM can replace his weapons with one of the following weapons:

........- melter

........- plasma gun

........- flamer

- if the squad consists of 10 or more members, another CSM can replace his weapons with the following weapon:

........- melter

........- plasma gun

........- flamer

........- heavy bolter

........- autocannon

........- rocket launcher

........- lascannon

- one chaos icon

- Champion

- the champion can replace his CCW with one of the following weapons:

........- power weapon

........- power fist

- Chaos Rhino

Special Rules:

- unknown

- Khorne Berzerkers (under 24 Pts)

Wargear:

- BP + CCW

- frag and krak grenades

Options:

- 2 Berzerkers can replace their BP with a plasma pistol

- Champion

- Chaos Rhino

Special Rules:

- fearless

- WS5

- furious charge

- +1A

- Plague Marines (24 Pts)

Wargear:

- BP + CCW or Bolter + CCW

- blight grenades (when being attacked the attacker doesn’t gain +1A)

Options:

- two Plague Marines can replace their weapons with the following weapon:

........- melter

........- plasma gun

........- flamer

- Champion

- Chaos Rhino

Special Rules:

- fearless

- +1W

- feel no pain

- Noise Marines (under 24 Pts, the cheapest of all the cults)

Wargear:

- BP + CCW oder Bolter + CCW

- frag and krak grenades

Options:

- each Noise Marine can replace his BP or Bolter with a Sonicblaster

..........Sonicblaster: unchanged (probably about 5 pts)

- if the squad consists of 6 members, one single Noise Marine can replace his weapons with a Blastmaster (48", S8, AP3, Explosive (2,5" blast template))

- Champion

..........the champion may get a Doom Siren (S4, flammer, AP3)

- Chaos Rhino

Special Rules:

- fearless

- I5

- Thousand Sons, (24 Pts)

Wargear:

- Bolter with inferno Bolts (S4, AP3)

- one Sorcerer with force weapon (probably 70 Pts)

...- MUST take at least one PSI-Power (see HQ-entry)

Options:

- Chaos Rhino

Special Rules:

- fearless

- slow and purposeful with only one dice(if accompanied by a sorcerer take a second dice)

- 4+ invulnerable

- lesser daemons (13 Pts, don’t take a troops-slot)

WS 4 | BS 4 | S 4 | T 4 | W 1 | I 4 | A 2 | LD 10 | SV -/5+

Wargear:

- Claws

Options:

- no options

Special Rules:

- summoning (see completely below)

- 5+ invulnerable

FAST ATTACK:

- RaptorS (under 22 Pts)

Wargear:

- BP + CCW or Bolter + CCW

- frag and krak grenades

Options:

- several special weapons

- one chaos icon

- Champion

Special Rules:

- wings

- deep strike

- Bikes:

Wargear:

- bike

- BP + CCW or Bolter + CCW

- frag and krak grenades

Options:

- several special weapons

- one chaos icon

- Champion

...(icon of nurgle is the most expensive one and allows T4(6) bikers)

- Champion

Special Rules:

- turbo booster

- Chaos Spawn (squad of 1 to 3, about 40 Pts)

WS 3 | BS 0 | S 5 | T 5 | W 2 | I 3 | A W6 | LD 9 | SV -

Wargear:

- Claws

Options:

- no options

Special Rules:

- cavalry

- slow and purposeful

HEAVY SUPPORT:

- Chaos Havocs

Wargear:

- BP + CCW oder Bolter + CCW

- frag and krak grenades

Options:

- several special and heavy weapons

- one chaos icon

- Champion

- Chaos Rhino

Special Rules:

- no special rule

- Obliterator Cult (70 Pts)

WS 4 | BS 4 | S 4 | T 4 | W 2 | I 4 | A 2 | LD 10 | SV 2+/5+

Wargear:

- Obliterator weapons (only energy based weapons, no projectile weapons; new: Multimelter & plasma cannon)

Options:

- no options

Special Rules:

- fearless

- slow and purposeful

- 5+ invulnerable

- Predator

Wargear:

- Autocannon

Options:

- replace AC with LK in the turret

- HB or LC in side sponsons

- extra armour

- daemonic possession (more expensive than now, see below)

Special Rules:

- no special rules

- Vindicator

Wargear:

- demolisher cannon (S10, AP2, 24")

Options:

- dozer blade

- extra armour

- daemonic possession (more expensive than now, see below)

Special Rules:

- no special rules

- Chaos Defiler, WS3, S8(10), A3

Wargear:

- Battle cannon

- RAC (secondary)

- heavy flamer

- daemonic possession (see below)

Options:

- can replace both secondary weapons with 2 CCWs (--> +2A)

Special Rules:

- Cybot Close Combat Weapons

- fleet of foot

- (with the additional 2 CCWa the defiler has 6 attacks while assaulting)

Chaos Land Raider (cheaper than now)

Wargear:

- synch. LS in the side sponsons, HBer

Options:

- extra armour

- daemonic possession (more expensive than now, see below)

Special Rules:

- Assault ramp

Special characters:

- Abaddon

Wargear:

- Daemonic Sword Drachnynen

- Lightning claw

Special Rules:

- Drachnyen is a daemon weapon, but doubles also the strength

- Abaddon may reroll all missed rolls to hit and to wound

- T4(5)

- I5

- +1A

- 4+ Invulnerable

- immune to instant death

- Ahriman

Wargear:

- Force weapon

- several PSI-Powers

Special Rules:

- may use all 3 PSI-Powers each turn (including his force weapon)

- Huron Blackheart

Wargear:

- Powerfist with integrated heavy flamer

- Hamadyra (provides PSI-power "Warp Time")

Special Rules:

- Warp Time: allows to reroll all missed rolls to hit and to wound in CC

- Typhus

Wargear:

- Manreaper

- PSI-Power “Nurgles Rot” (works like the actual pandemic staff)

Special Rules:

- manreaper: daemonic weapon, but works additionally as a force weapon

- Kharn

WS 7 | BS ? | S 5 | W 4 | W ? | I 5 | A ? | LD 10 | SV 3+/5+

Wargear:

- gorechild (always hits on 2+ in CC, 2D6 for armour penetration)

Special Rules:

- immune to all PSI-Attacks

- furious charge

- Lucius

Wargear:

- unknown

Special Rules:

- unknown

- Fabius Bile

Wargear:

- Xyclos Needler (CCW, wounds always on 2+)

Special Rules:

- can mutate CSM

Icons:

If a squad or a character get an icon, the following bonus is gained:

Chaos glory: reroll all missed Ld-tests

Khorne: +1A

Nurgle: +1T (T4 becomes T4(5) etc.)

Slaanesh: +1I

Tzeentch: 5+ invulnerable (or if invulnerable already exists, add +1 to it - so a 5+ invulnerable becomes a 4+ invulnerable)

MISCELLANEOUS:

- Summoning lesser deamons (troops)

For deamons each icon works like a teleport homer. Daemons may attack after summoning but may not move.

- Summoning greater deamons (HQ-choice)

When the deamon is available, replace an aspiring champion with it. If there is no aspiring champion, the deamon is lost. Daemons may attack after summoning but may not move.

- Daemonic Possession (teurer als 20 Puntke)

A Tank equipped with this ignores all “crew shaken” and “stunned” results. If it does so, the BS goes down by one (so BS4 becomes BS3). A tank with deamonic possession may still transport troops.

[Fan67]

Редкостный нёрф... Хаос не тот, что был прежде. :)

Изменено 20 июня, 2007 пользователем Fan67

[Mouaren]

Дефилер... мать.. мать....

[monsieur Hereticus]

чет я не врубился. культовые мары едят труп чойс вместо элиты?

[Leonid]

Дефайлер с флитом? O_o Рыдаю =)

Изменено 20 июня, 2007 пользователем Leonid

[wasted]

чет я не врубился. культовые мары едят труп чойс вместо элиты?

Да. И это :boyan: ...

[monsieur Hereticus]

отменили дредноутов. :D теперь вместо них сайботы))

Изменено 20 июня, 2007 пользователем monsieur Hereticus

[Mr V]

Тзинчитскому хаос лорду таки не дали 4+ инвуль, а дали какой-то похужевший Doombolt.

Интересно, что за Lash of Submission.

И походу Нурглитская магия будет неплохой - как я понял все модели в 12" получат удар на 4+ с S3, Игшникам будет хорошо, хотя сейвы допустимы.

Изменено 20 июня, 2007 пользователем Mr. Grey

[Xagen]

Надеюсь что кодекс для демонов и культистов будет совмещаться с ренегатским. А то всего один вид демонов в новом кодексе не вселяет радости...

[monsieur Hereticus]

Жаль, что в плане магии возвратились к 2-ке. Лорд-маг по тройке - мечта поэта

[Vilgeforcz]

Круто. :)

Первым заявляю, что истинный Абаддон будет у меня. Остальные - "лже" :P =)

Изменено 20 июня, 2007 пользователем человекпаук

[Mr V]

Таким ходом в 40к скоро появится понятие "хевимэджик", у Тзинча так вообще наверное колдовать будут все кому не лень:)

[monsieur Hereticus]

чет не понял, а где все плазма-пистолеты?

[Osama Vin Diesel]

Однако дефайлер таперича стал "убер-мегаманч ассаулт киллин машин", особливо с флитом! :P Но вообще, хаос как был читнёй так читнёй и останется, уж кому как не нам, лояльным гвардейцам, это знать, так что хватит уже ныть! <_<

[Woice from Warp]

Хурон чур мой!

[Woice from Warp]

А на второй слот - Ариман...

Все видели: "Chaos Land Raider (cheaper than now)"?

Пойду его собирать...

[Ujin]

FAST ATTACK:

Chaos Spawn

Special Rules:

- cavalry

- slow and purposeful

Смяшно.

[Spirit.]

Интересно дефилер стоить будет?

если очков 130 то мона брать :rolleyes:

А в целом очень даже найс.

[A7V]

Смяшно.

Угу, типа ползал-ползал, ползал-ползал, а потом каааак прыгнет!

[Snorky]

Да. И это :boyan: ...

Да и это айс. И это логично. И это быково! :)

[_Ustas_]

Что то они с Хаос Спауном накосячили... с 3-й инициативой и без сэйва он имеет шанс склеить ласты от пятирыльного ласплаза не нанеся ни одной вунды :o

[Woice from Warp]

Прямо само проситься:

-Виндикатор

2х3 Облитюков

2хПяхоты

3хДреда с лазками

2хДП и их эквивалента...

И что характерно, должно влязать на 1500...