Новости и слухи прошлых лет (2008-2011)

[tyler]

Maelstorm vs GW

Games Workshop's new Terms and Conditions, which come into force on the 31st of May 2011 restrict the sale - among other things - of all of their products to the European Union, although there are a couple of countries (such as Norway and Switzerland) that are geographically within Europe but not in the EU that we can still sell to.

The full list of countries that we can sell GW products to is as follows:

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom

Obviously this means that all of our faithful Games Workshop customers from the Anglosphere - Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States - as well as those from Brazil, Chile, Peru, Russia, Japan and South Korea (apologies for those countries I have missed out) will now miss out on our superb service and cheap prices, but I'm afraid the terms and conditions of our contract with Games Workshop mean that we have to say goodbye.

But it's a cracking goodbye! From today until midnight (GMT) on Monday the 30th of May all of our customers will be able to use a 18% off UK RRP discount voucher code on Games Workshop products only, so you stock up on all of those items you'll need for your Warhammer, Warhammer 40,000 or Lord of the Rings armies - and of course all your paints and brushes!

В двух словах - с 31 мая Мэйлсторм не сможет продавать продукцию GW клиентам за пределами Евросоюза.

Изменено 16 мая, 2011 пользователем tyler

[DenisV]

Краткий перевод - с 31 мая маэль не имеет права продавать продукцию ГВ в Россию. Причем скорее всего это коснется не только маэля, но и всех остальных онлайн-магазинов, т.к. меняются условия, на которых ГВ будет с ними работать.

Изменено 16 мая, 2011 пользователем DenisV

[DenisV]

Простите я что то не понимаю... нас что поимели?

И нас тоже. Маэль теперь может работать только с несколькими выбранными странами.

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom

Мы в одном списке с Австралией, США, Канадой.

[Bortian]

Нет слов, один ругательства >_< Изменено 16 мая, 2011 пользователем Bortian

[Акабоши но Теньши]

 ! 
Предупреждение:
Офтоп прекращаем. Хотите высказать свое мнение - создайте тему. В офтопике или в онлайн магазинах базара.

[Dr Darog]

Starting from the 28th of May 120 products that were Games Workshop direct only items will be coming back on the shelves as resin or resin Hybrids. This new range “Citadel Fine Cast” range will be limited in number for the first few months, so we will be taking advance orders for them.

Here are the new recast products at the full RRP;

41-60 COMMANDER DANTE £10.50

53-60 LOGAN GRIMNAR £14.50

55-61 THE EMPERORS CHAMPION £9.50

48-63 SPACE MARINE CHAPLAIN WITH JUMP PACK £10.50

44-60 DARK ANGELS COMPANY MASTER £10.50

48-61 SM LIBRARIAN IN TERMINATOR ARMOUR £14.50

53-61 NJAL STORMCALLER £14.50

41-61 ASTORATH THE GRIM £12.50

43-60 ABADDON THE DESPOILER £14.50

43-61 HURON BLACKHEART £10.50

50-61 ORK WARBOSS WITH ATTACK SQUIG £14.50

50-63 ORK BIG MEK £14.50

50-65 ORK PAINBOY WITH GROT ORDERLY £10.50

46-61 ELDAR AUTARCH WITH POWER WEAPON £10.50

46-62 THE AVATAR OF KHAINE £22.50

46-63 HARLEQUIN DEATH JESTER £10.50

46-64 HARLEQUIN SHADOWSEER £10.50

47-61 COMMISSAR YARRICK £10.50

47-63 IMPERIAL GUARD LORD COMMISSAR £9.50

51-61 TYRANID ZOANTHROPE £15.50

51-63 TYRANID TYRANT GUARD £15.50

51-64 TYRANID HIVE GUARD £15.50

51-65 TYRANID BROODLORD £15.50

57-61 BROTHER CAPTAIN STERN £14.50

57-60 LORD KALDOR DRAIGO £14.50

57-62 CASTELLAN CROWE £10.50

57-63 INQUISITOR COTEAZ £10.50

45-60 DARK ELDAR ARCHON £9.50

45-64 LELITH HESPERAX £10.50

45-63 URIEN RAKARTH £10.50

45-61 DARK ELDAR SUCCUBUS £9.50

56-60 TAU ETHEREAL WITH HONOUR BLADE £9.50

83-62 CHAOS EXALTED HERO £9.50

83-63 CHAOS KHORNE EXALTED HERO £10.50

86-60 EMPIRE CAPTAIN WITH HAMMER & PISTOL £9.50

92-60 WOOD ELF HIGHBORN WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50

84-60 DWARF LORD WITH HAMMER & SHIELD £9.50

84-61 DWARF RUNELORD WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50

90-60 SKAVEN WARLORD £9.50

90-61 QUEEK HEADTAKER £10.50

90-62 DEATHMASTER SNIKCH £10.50

91-61 VAMPIRE LORD £9.50

89-60 GRIMGOR IRONHIDE £10.50

89-62 BLACK ORC BIG BOSS £10.50

87-60 CARADRYAN £10.50

85-61 DARK ELF ASSASSIN WITH TWO HAND WEAPONS £9.50

81-60 MALAGOR THE DARK OMEN £12.50

10-61 URUK-HAI WITH CROSSBOWS £14.00

10-62 URUK-HAI BERSERKERS £14.00

08-61 GOTHMOG (PELENNOR) £20.50

05-60 ELROND AND GIL-GALAD £15.00

10-60 SARUMAN AND GRIMA £15.00

02-60 GANDALF THE WHITE £20.50

04-60 ARAGORN (THE BLACK GATE) £20.50

04-62 THEODEN (HELM’S DEEP) £20.50

04-61 BOROMIR (ITHILIEN) £20.50

09-60 SULADAN THE SERPENT LORD £20.50

08-62 THE DARK MARSHAL (RINGWRAITH) £20.50

05-61 DAIN AND BALIN £15.00

97-60 SKULLTAKER £14.50

48-40 MARNEUS CALGAR AND HONOUR GUARD £36.00

48-41 SPACE MARINE TECHMARINE WITH SERVITORS £25.50

55-40 BLACK TEMPLARS SWORD BRETHREN SQUAD £25.50

48-42 SPACE MARINE STERNGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50

48-43 SPACE MARINE VANGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50

53-40 CANIS WOLFBORN £30.00

43-40 NURGLE DAEMON PRINCE £21.50

43-41 CHAOS SPACE MARINE RAPTORS £25.50

43-42 DEATH GUARD PLAGUE MARINES £25.50

50-43 BOSS ZAGSTRUK £14.50

50-40 GHAZGHKULL THRAKA £22.50

50-41 ORK TANKBUSTAS £25.50

50-42 ORK BIG MEK WITH SHOKK ATTACK GUN £23.00

46-41 ELDAR RANGERS £20.50

46-42 ELDAR DARK REAPERS £23.00

46-44 ELDAR STRIKING SCORPIONS £23.00

46-40 ELDAR FARSEER AND WARLOCKS £20.50

51-42 TYRANID LICTOR £15.50

51-40 TYRANID HIVE TYRANT £36.00

51-41 TYRANID PYROVORE £21.50

45-40 DARK ELDAR INCUBI £23.00

45-41 DARK ELDAR MANDRAKES £20.50

56-40 TAU SNIPER DRONE TEAM £23.00

83-42 ARCHAON THE EVERCHOSEN £30.00

83-43 CHAOS LORD ON DAEMONIC MOUNT £22.50

83-41 CHAOS DRAGON OGRE SHAGGOTH £36.00

86-41 LUDWIG SCHWARZHELM £22.50

86-40 KURT HELBORG £22.50

82-41 THE GREEN KNIGHT £22.50

82-40 KING LOUEN LEONCOEUR £30.00

92-42 WOOD ELVES TREE KIN £30.00

92-40 ORION KING IN THE WOODS £22.50

92-41 WOOD ELVES TREEMAN £36.00

84-40 THOREK IRONBROW £36.00

84-41 DWARF GYROCOPTER £23.00

84-42 DWARF BOLT THROWER £23.00

90-40 SKAVEN WARPLOCK JEZZAILS £30.00

91-40 VAMPIRE COUNTS VARGHULF £21.50

91-42 COUNT MANNFRED £22.50

91-41 VAMPIRE COUNTS BLOOD KNIGHTS £61.50

88-41 KROQ GAR £40.00

89-44 GOBLIN SPEAR CHUKKA £18.50

89-43 SAVAGE ORC GREAT SHAMAN ON WAR BOAR £15.50

89-41 ORC WARBOSS ON WYVERN £40.00

89-42 GOBLIN ROCK LOBBER £23.00

89-45 GORBAD IRONCLAW £30.00

89-40 AZHAG THE SLAUGHTERER £55.00

85-41 DARK ELVES REAPER BOLT THROWER £18.50

08-40 THE DARK LORD SAURON £25.50

08-42 GULAHVAR THE TERROR OF ARNOR £30.00

08-43 MORDOR TROLL CHIEFTAIN £25.50

02-40 THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING £37.00

97-42 FLAMERS OF TZEENTCH £15.50

[Веселый висельник]

Новые цены в США и Канаде. Последний столбик - процентная разница в ценах между странами.

ПДФ с ценами

[Dr Darog]

Hi everyone,

Well, we can see that there are quite a few of you with strong feelings about several issues, and the threads have gone a little crazy. We’re sorry many of you feel frustrated. We have read all of your comments and because we (the web dudes) don’t have the power to act on any of them, be assured that we have passed your comments on to the higher levels of management in GW.

We want to continue posting pictures of your fantastic miniatures, and link to hobby related items. We would like future threads to remain relevant to the topic in question, so everyone else can have their voice heard and enjoy the discussions about the hobby we all love.

We’ve got your comments both in this thread and on those older posts, which will remain open for you to carry on the conversation there – please, feel absolutely free to do so, we will indeed read them. But in any new threads, we want to celebrate the creative efforts of others. Any comments that stray off topic will be removed.

Just remember that we must remove any strong language and abusive users, in consideration of our youngest fans.

The web team.

С фейсбука ГВ http://www.facebook.com/notes/games-worksh...orkshopofficial

Изменено 19 мая, 2011 пользователем Dr Darog

[Листопадов]

Basically, GW have decided that starting soon, nobody and that means absolutely nobody, other than the guys who deal with the products etc, will know what is in the pipework or being released until 1 WEEK before it's actual release date. There will no longer be any incoming emails or the like, apparently the first that anyone will know of anything will be on the back page of WD. Which looks like releases will be tied into the same day that WD is released bearing in mind that subscribers get it around a week early.

Now before you all post pictures of salt cellars etc, I shall tell you where I heard this info. Today GW held it's National Managers Meeting at GW HQ in Nottingham, and the source of this was actually present at the meeting. So bearing in mind it came from the head honchos at GW, and was announced to each and every member of GW management from across the country, please refrain from the salt jokes please.

[Дмитрий aka K_D_V]

можно как-то это переозвучить на родной речи?

[Dr Darog]

ГВ ввело еще боле жесткую политику безопасности, например, последняя страница ВД будет присылать прям перед отправкой вд в печать, за 1 неделю. Типа борются с утечками.

Хотя все знают, что ГВ само сливает новости)))

[Dr Darog]

Dear Anthony,

Thanks for contacting Games Workshop about the change in our trading terms for European accounts. I know this has frustrated you and for that I am truly sorry. As a long standing customer, you deserve to know why we made this decision.

As you know, we introduce people to the Games Workshop hobby of collecting, painting and gaming with Citadel miniatures through our Hobby Centres and local independent trade accounts. Games Workshop Hobby Centres run introductory games and painting sessions, beginner lessons, hobby activities and events. We provide all these services free of charge. We only recover this investment if customers then buy products from us.

Where we don't have a Games Workshop Hobby Centre, we support local independent trade accounts. These businesses provide a convenient place for customers to buy our products close to where they live. We support these businesses with local customer service teams and warehouses to ensure customers have immediate access to our best selling products and new releases. Many customers discover the hobby this way.

In addition we invest millions of pounds every year in our design studio and factory to ensure that each month we release more new products. This makes the Games Workshop Hobby more exciting for existing customers, helping them stay in the hobby longer. We can only afford to do this because of the volume of customers we have recruited and developed through our local Hobby Centres and trade accounts.

It is for this reason that we have changed our European Trade terms. Over recent years, a number of currencies have moved a long way from their historical relative values, and this has opened the door for some traders to try to take advantage of these currency movements and offer deep discounts to overseas hobbyists. This has been the case with European internet traders selling to some of our customers overseas.

While this may seem great in the short term, the simple fact is that European internet traders will not invest any money in growing the hobby in your country. Their model is to minimise their costs and free-ride on the investment of Games Workshop and local independent shops in creating a customer base.

We on the other hand have to keep paying our Australian staff, rents and utilities in Australian dollars. While some customers have suggested we halve our prices, the only way we could do that is if we halve our Australian staff's salaries, default on our rents and not pay our suppliers until exchange rates move back into alignment. That's the reality of what a price reduction of this scale means. And we both know that customers who are motivated by price are not going to change their behaviour if it was any less than that.

The inevitable consequence if this was allowed to continue is that Games Workshop would not be able to operate Hobby Centres, nor to support local trade accounts. And if this happened in more territories outside Europe, the loss of volume would leave Games Workshop no choice but to scale back our investment in new product development, further eroding our customer base. Not something that we or our customers would want us to do.

That is why we took the decision to take legitimate action to restrict European trade accounts from selling the goods they purchase from Games Workshop outside Europe. None of the other alternatives were viable.

While I understand that you may still be unhappy with our decision, it was taken to ensure we can continue to support the Games Workshop hobby communities around the world through our Games Workshop Hobby Centres and local trade accounts. And to ensure we continue to invest in developing the best possible new product releases every month. I hope therefore that over time you will see the benefits of this decision for you and your hobby.

Yours sincerely,

Mark Wells

Chief Executive

18 May 2011

[Золушка в 24/7]

В двух словах: о чем тут?

[Grendel]

В двух словах: о чем тут?

В двух словах - "мы понимаем, что вам изменение политики может не понравиться, но все вырученные деньги пойдут на благое дело развития хобби-центров, дизайн-студии и т.д.". Ну и выдали объяснение, почему же раньше можно было, а сейчас нельзя.

Изменено 22 мая, 2011 пользователем Grendel

[Шахматист]

Интересные комментарии к письму (на английском): http://kirbysblog-ic.blogspot.com/2011/05/...ponds.html#more

[Lord Velard]

Письмо от Wayland Games Ltd

"Текст"

Hi Everyone,

Before we start, if you'd allow me to present a little background about Wayland before we get into the meat of the issue I'd be grateful.

We laid out our little web store back in August 2008, our beginnings were humble, with my brother and I packing orders in a spare room. It wasn't ideal but it was what we had to start with and we grew and grew through the continued business of our loyal customers through four warehouses to our current location. In thirty three months we have gone from a spare room in Essex, UK with my brother and I packing boxes to a global operation with fourteen full time staff which is now positioned as one of the largest if not the largest independent hobby retailer in the world. We run our business today as we always have done, in a professional and ethical manner both within the letter and the spirit of the law. Almost all suppliers like us, customers enjoy our openness and service-oriented outlook and whilst we're realistic enough to know we're not by any means perfect we will always strive to improve to ensure our central tenet of great prices and better service.

Managing such growth has been far from simple; we have experienced growing pains like any business in any sector that has exploded in market share terms. Our growing pains have also been more painful as we continually seek to adjust to a shifting commercial landscape from our dominant supplier, Games Workshop. Like many of you, I believe that Games Workshop produce a fantastic product which gives endless joy to countless people. I am proud to be associated with them. Unsurprisingly, therefore, I read with real concern the statement by the CEO Mark Wells over the new trade terms which effectively prevents us selling Games Workshop supplied products outside Europe. Mark’s statement can be found here

Mark seems to be clearly of the view that on-line retailers ( and we are not purely that, of course given our bricks and mortar presence) “free ride” on the back of Games Workshop’s bricks and mortar outlets. We have sought over the years, and I thought with some success and recognition, to demonstrate to Games Workshop the value that we provide not just in terms of sales but also in terms of pre and after sales service (not to mention our activities at trade fairs), which is clearly equivalent to the service that is provided on the “ground” by bricks and mortar outlets. Quite aside from the legality of Games Workshop’s actions, we are confused by the commercial attitude of Games Workshop which hampers our ability to sell to hobbyists to the clear disadvantage of both Games Workshop (albeit maybe not their retail arm) and the hobbyists themselves.

I will not air anyone’s dirty laundry in public. Therefore, I am writing to Games Workshop separately (its board, lawyers and their principal shareholders) to share my concerns in greater depth. I hope that commercial common sense will prevail and that we can continue to work with Games Workshop to expand their market and bring a great product to as many people as possible at the best price possible. After all, Games Workshop not only has a clear responsibility to the market but also a clear responsibility to its shareholders (which, after all, could be you and me!).

In the meantime, we believe after the announced terms are implemented we shall be able to continue to offer all of our loyal customers the same product range that we offer today. There may be a small lead time to implement but we've been given a rather short period to react. We will comply fully and completely with the new terms and conditions of sale imposed upon us and will not contravene them in any capacity whatsoever (albeit we would not wish that to be seen as acceptance of their legality), all we seek to achieve is that customers both old and new are able to benefit from our view of the market wherever they are located. We all love our hobby.

Over the next few weeks we'll be providing updates as to how the process of implementing these changes is coming along, the chances are we'll use Facebook to disseminate this information as it is a great platform for customers to interact with us and each other.

We look forward to continue to serve you and we always will.

Keep on Wargaming.

Richard.

Wayland Games

если кратко то

1. Mark seems to be clearly of the view that on-line retailers ( and we are not purely that, of course given our bricks and mortar presence) “free ride” on the back of Games Workshop’s bricks and mortar outlets.

2. We will comply fully and completely with the new terms and conditions of sale imposed upon us and will not contravene them in any capacity whatsoever (albeit we would not wish that to be seen as acceptance of their legality).

По русски.

1. ГВшнки назвали нас захребетниками (но мы с этим не согласны), и прикрыли нам халяву.

2. У нас нет выбора и мы подчиняемся. Печалька....

PS. Кто следующий?

Изменено 23 мая, 2011 пользователем Lord Velard

[Mad_Rat]

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...GameStyle=wh40k

Новая волна дарков в адванс ордере.

[LordKIN]

Старые металлические модели в новом пластике.

[ЧК]

Фотки с фrанцузского ГД, пока в неважнецком качестве

http://www.wolferine-figurines.fr/galeries/25

Подборка ссылок

[Dr Darog]

http://www.businessweek.com/print/magazine...31060885070.htm

Для тех, кто заказывает из США.

[Vistan]

Вроде бы ещё не было : обложка июньского WD

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...Id=prod1210024a

Изменено 31 мая, 2011 пользователем Vistan

[ЧК]

Цивильные фотки французского ГД на сайте ГВ

[Dr Darog]

http://forums.warforge.ru/index.php?showtopic=105620 Новая аркада по 40к, Kill team, trailer

[Dr Darog]

С колокола

No details on contents here, (that will come soon enough) but timeframes are said to be:

Sisters of Battle in July-August timeframe (in White Dwarf, same as Blood Angels were)

Necrons in the October-November pre holiday timeslot (same slot as Dark Eldar were)

And in another "Mystery Box" situation like Space Hulk was, a special something is apparantly coming in October from GW (may be 40k related - maybe not).

[w1zzard]

Обновили фак к рульбуку и выпустили фак ГК.

40k Rulebook version 1_3.pdf

Grey Knights v1_0.pdf