wargame Red Dragon (EE; AB)

[DarthM]

Вырубать радар/скринить дешевыми шилками/использовать тунгуски с отключенным радаром

[Сержант BANZAY]

Проблема в том, что вместе с ними на меня почти всегда летит адова толпа обычных самолетиков, которые хрен выбьешь одними только ПЗРК, которые еще и косячные и сбивают дай боги один самолет из пяти (говорю про "Иглу"). Или вертолеты. В результате над башкой наворачивает круги пара антирадарников, а остальная авиация методично ломает наземку. Противодействовать своими самолетами получается хреново, ибо мало их. Какие у СССР антирадарники, кстати?

[DarthM]

Проблема в том, что вместе с ними на меня почти всегда летит адова толпа обычных самолетиков, которые хрен выбьешь одними только ПЗРК, которые еще и косячные и сбивают дай боги один самолет из пяти (говорю про "Иглу"). Или вертолеты. В результате над башкой наворачивает круги пара антирадарников, а остальная авиация методично ломает наземку. Противодействовать своими самолетами получается хреново, ибо мало их.

Ну попробуй поспамить IR ПВО.

Плюс у Тунгуски SACLOS, пулеметы ей отключают

Какие у СССР антирадарники, кстати?

Су-24 и Миг-25БМ

Изменено 4 июля, 2013 пользователем DarthM

[Senior G]

Какие у СССР антирадарники, кстати?

Против НАТО антирадарники не сильно нужны, если не сказать, что совсем не нужны.

[Dzimmu]

Более чем нужны. Выбивать роланды2 при помощи су24 самое оно.

[Dzimmu]

As you may have guessed last week, ALB's first free DLC is well-advanced and should be released ... soon (which is further away in time than "imminent" ;) ).

It will bring to you:

- New Conquest mode.

- Co-op mode for the solo campaigns.

- 5 new multiplayer maps.

- 24 new units (12 per side): 6 planes, 7 infantry units, 9 vehicles/tanks, 2 helicopters.

Those new units are being added for two purpose:

- to meet some popular request and/or fill some omissions in the original decks.

- to "buff" NATO individual minor nations, while strengthening "Pact brotherhood" mixed deck.

Therefore, new units won't be necessarily evenly distributed among each alliance ...

В ближайшее время ожидается первое бесплатное длц для игры.

[Knight Phaeton]

Модеры, пора переименовать тему в "Wargame: Airland Battle"

МиГи-29 сверху на картинке будут германскими прототипами или будут доступны всему ОВД?

[Сержант BANZAY]

Наконец-то, кооп. Хотя сама по себе кампания уныла и бездарна.

[Senior G]

Модеры, пора переименовать тему в "Wargame: Airland Battle"

МиГи-29 сверху на картинке будут германскими прототипами или будут доступны всему ОВД?

Дадут всем ИМХО, но ты ведь солянкой ОВД не играешь.

[Knight Phaeton]

Если ОВД будет одновременно доступна карточка из двух противовоздушных МиГов-29 и карточка Су-27, я крепко задумаюсь.

[Senior G]

Если ОВД будет одновременно доступна карточка из двух противовоздушных МиГов-29 и карточка Су-27, я крепко задумаюсь.

Потеряешь прототипы.

Изменено 25 июля, 2013 пользователем Senior G

[Knight Phaeton]

Спасибо, Кэп.

[Senior G]

Спасибо, Кэп.

Я имел в виду, сможешь ли ты воевать без советских прототипов?

[Knight Phaeton]

Т-80У заменят Т-64БВ и Т-64БВ1

Мсту заменят Даны, они даже лучше за счет количества

Тунгуску М ничего не заменит, но за все надо платить

Появятся собственно Даны, Прам-С, Ми-2 РО, Сокол, Су-7БКЛ и противовоздушный МиГ-29.

[Knight Phaeton]

Новый патч, отличный патч!

Раскрывающийся текст

BALANCE CHANGES wrote:

General

- generic changes on availability: base availability don't change (but otherwise stated individually below), but the more experienced cards of the unit received availability buff.

- removal of the extra HE damage for infantry in woods.

- switching the SUPPORT & HELICOPTER categories' activation points costs (Support slots are cheaper, Helo ones more expensive).

- all unarmed & 'Very Good" optics recon jeep base availability per card decreased from 8 to 6.

Logistics

- all FOBs (any nation) price decreased from 100 to 75$.

- CSSR VSOT-64A/R2 base availability per card increased from 3 to 4.

Support

- CSSR Strop 2's gun switched from vz.53/59 to a 2A38M (same as Tunguska, but single tube), with increased anti-helo range (2800m), RoF (272rpm) & accuracy (9).

- Polish & E-German ZSU-57-2 ammo consumption fixed (it affect the RoF display, although performance are unchanged.

- Polish & E-German ZSU-57-2 range against helicopters increased from 2450m to 2800m.

- Polish ZSU-23-4 Szilka base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Soviet BTR-152E ZPTU-2 base availability per card increased from 12 to 16.

- E-German Fla-MG SPW-152E base availability per card increased from 12 to 16.

- Soviet BTR-152E ZPTU-4 base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- CSSR Strop 2 base availability per card increased from 4 to 6.

- Polish Kub-M service date changed for 1974.

- all NSWP Kub-M base availability per card increased from 6 to 8.

- Soviet Buk base availability per card increased from 4 to 6.

- Soviet & E-German Osa base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- all Pact Osa-AK/Romb base availability per card increased from 6 to 8.

- Soviet Osa-AKM base availability per card increased from 4 to 6.

- E-German FlaRak Strela-1 base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Soviet Ural ZU-23-2 base availability per card increased from 12 to 16.

- Polish Hibneryt ZU-23-2 base availability per card increased from 12 to 16.

- Soviet 2S9 Nona price decreased from 50 to 40$.

- Soviet 2S9 Nona direct-fire accuracy increased from 2 to 4.

- Soviet 2S9 Nona indirect accuracy increased.

- Soviet 2S23 Nona-SVK price decreased from 60 to 50$.

- Soviet 2S23 Nona-SVK direct-fire accuracy increased from 2 to 5.

- Soviet 2S23 Nona-SVK indirect accuracy increased.

- Polish BM-24 base availability per card increased from 3 to 4.

- E-German MFRW BM-24 base availability per card increased from 3 to 4.

- French AMX-13 Oeil Noir base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Norwegian NM195 base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Danish Hawk base availability per card increased from 6 to 8.

- W-German FlakPz M42A1 base availability increased per card increased from 12 to 16.

- W-German FlakPz M42A1 optics decreased from Exceptional to Very Good (not being a radar unit).

- French AMX-30 Roland base availability per card decreased from 8 to 6.

- French VAB VDAA base availability increased per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Swedish Lvrbv 701 price decreased from 35 to 30$.

- American M163 Vulcan price decreased from 25 to 20$.

- British Falcon price ddecreased from 25 to 20$.

- W-German LARS base availability per card increased from 3 to 4.

- Swedish Ikv 103 base availability increased per card increased from 12 to 16.

Recon

- E-German Grenzer speed decreased from 27 to 18 km/h.

- E-German Grenzer base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Polish Zwiadowcy RPG-2 ammunitions increased from 4 to 6.

- Soviet PT-76B base availability per card increased from 6 to 8.

- Soviet PT-71 base availability per card increased from 4 to 6.

- Soviet PT-76B DShK base availability per card increased from 6 to 8.

- Soviet & E-German BRM-1 base availability per card decreased from 4 to 3.

- Soviet & E-German BRM-1 price decreased from 65 to 55$

- CSSR BPvZ Svatava base availability per card decreased from 4 to 3.

- CSSR BPvZ Svatava price decreased from 70 to 60$

- Polish & E-German BTR-40/SPW-40 base availability per card increased from 6 to 8.

- Polish & E-German BTR-40A/SPW-40A base availability per card increased from 6 to 8.

- Soviet & E-German UAZ-469 KPV base availbility per card decreased from 8 to 6.

- Soviet UAZ-469 AGS-17 base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- Soviet UAZ-469 AGS-17 number of cards availabile decreased from 2 to 1.

- Soviet UAZ-469 AGS-17 price decreased from 50 to 45$.

- CSSR UAZ-469 vz59 base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- CSSR OT-65RL base availability decreased from 4 to 3.

- Polish Mi-2Ro base availability decreased from 4 to 3.

- Polish Mi-2Ro price increased from 55 to 65$.

- Norwegian HV speed increased from 13 to 18 km/h.

- Norwegian HV M72 LAW ammunitions increased from 2 to 4.

- Norwegian HV base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- W-German BGS speed increased from 13 to 18 km/h.

- W-German BGS RL-83 Blindicide ammunitions increased from 3 to 6.

- W-German BGS base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- British Rover Pinky base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- British Rover Pinky number of cards availabile decreased from 2 to 1.

- British Rover Pinky price decreased from 50 to 45$.

- American M151A2 FAV base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- American M151A2 FAV number of cards availabile decreased from 2 to 1.

- American M151A2 FAV price decreased from 50 to 45$.

- French AMX-13/90 base availability increased from 4 to 8.

- French AMX-10RC base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- French AMX-10RC price decreased from 50 to 40$.

- British Ferret Mk.1 price increased from 30 to 35$.

- Canadian M113 C&R Lynx price decreased from 40 to 35$.

- French M201 106mm base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- French M201 106mm price decreased from 40 to 35$.

- Swedish Epvb 30222 price decreased from 45 to 40$.

- British FV101 Scorpion base availability increased from 6 to 8.

- British FV107 Scimitar base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- American V-150 base availability increased from 4 to 8.

- American V-150 20mm base availability increased from 4 to 8.

- American V-150 20mm price increased from 30 to 35$.

- American V-150 76mm base availability increased from 4 to 8.

- American V-150 90mm base availability increased from 4 to 8.

- American LAV-25 Scout price decreased from 60 to 50$.

- American M1025 Humvee GAU base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- American M1025 Humvee Mk.19 base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- American M113 ACAV base availability increased from 6 to 8.

- American M551 ACAV base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- Norwegian M24 base availability increased from 6 to 8.

- Danish M41 base availability increased from 6 to 8.

- Danish M41 price decreased from 35 to 30$.

- W-German SpPz Kürz base availability increased from 6 to 8.

- W-German SPz Luchs base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- W-German SPz Luchs A1 price decreased from 60 to 55$.

- Canadian Ferret Mk1 base availability per card decreased from 8 to 6.

- British Ferret Mk2 base availability per card decreased from 8 to 6.

- Swedish Hkp 6A price decreased from 50 to 40$.

- Canadian CH-146 base availability decreased from 6 to 4.

- American OH-58C Kiowa base availability decreased from 6 to 4.

- American OH-58D Kiowa base availability decreased from 4 to 3.

- American OH-58D Kiowa price increased from 70 to 75$.

- British Gazelle AH.1 base availability decreased from 4 to 3.

- British Gazelle AH.1 SNEB base availability decreased from 4 to 3.

Infantry

- all NSWP Fagot team service date changed to 1975.

- E-German Pionier service date moved to 1974.

- Polish Lekka Piechota strenght increased from 5 to 10 men (ammos increased accordingly).

- Polish Lekka Piechota now got a PKM squad machine-gun.

- Polish Lekka Piechota availability increased from 10 to 12 per card.

- Polish Lekka Piechota price increased from 15 to 20$.

- Polish Lekka Piechota doesn't have access to the OT-62 line anymore.

- Polish Lekka Piechota are now available in any deck type but Mechanized & Armored.

- E-German Panzerjäger's RPG-7V accuracy increased from 8 to 10.

- E-German Panzerjäger RPG-7V RoF increased from 10rpm to 20rpm.

- CSSR Pancerovniki RPG-7V accuracy increased from 8 to 10.

- CSSR Pancerovniki RPG-7V RoF increased from 10rpm to 20rpm.

- Soviet Morskaya Pehota RPG rockets loadout increased from 6 to 8 (as all other 15-men squads).

- Canadian Blowpipe team missile loadout reduced from 6 to 4 (as any other 2-men MANPAD crew).

- Canadian Pathfinders' strenght increased from 5 to 10 men (ammos increased accordingly).

- Canadian Pathfinders price increased from 20 to 25 30$.

- Swedish RBS 56 classified as prototype.

- Swedish RBS 56's number of cards available increased from 1 to 2.

- American Light Riflemen now availble in Marine & Airborne decks too.

- Canadian MAW's Carl Gustav accuracy increased from 12 to 13.

- Canadian MAW's Carl Gustav RoF increased from 10rpm to 20rpm.

- American Rangers price increased from 25 to 30$.

- Norwegian Gevaermenn now have access to UH-1B, and are available in international Air Assault decks.

- American Delta Force LAW ammunitions increased from 6 to 10.

Vehicles

- Polish SKOT-2 MG switched from a for a PKT (7,62mm) to a DShK (12,7mm).

- Polish TOPAS-2AP anti-helicopter range increased from 875m to 1050m.

- Soviet BMP-2 Obr. 86 price decreased from 50 to 45$.

- Soviet BMP-3's ATGM switched from Bastion to Arkan (2800m, ACC 10, AP 21) and service date moved to 1991.

- Soviet BTR-60PAI removed as transport and reintroduce as recon East-German SPW-60PB(ABS).

- Soviet BTR-80 accuracy increased from 2 to 4.

- Soviet MT-LBVM removed as a transport and reintroduce as the Soviet MTP-LB armored supply vehicle.

- Soviet MT-LB speed increased from 60 to 70km/h

- Soviet MT-LB renamed MT-LBV.

- E-German BRDM-2 Konkurs availability per card increased from 4 to 6 (as all other Pact BRDM-2 Konkurs)

- Soviet UAZ-469 Fagot missile changed into a Faktoriya and renamed UAZ-469 Faktoryia.

- Soviet UAZ-469 Faktoriya price increased from 15 to 20$.

- Soviet UAZ-469 Faktoriya base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- E-German PzJ UAZ Fagot base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- E-German PzJ UAZ Fagot missiles loadout increased from 4 to 6 (as all other Pact UAZ Fagot).

- Soviet UAZ-469 Konkurs base availability per card increased from 4 to 6.

- Danish M6 Mosegris armor increased from 0 to 1 (but top).

- W-German Marder 1A3 price decreased from 45 to 40$.

- Danish Laro TOW missile loadout increased from 6 to 8.

- American M151A2 I-TOW base availability per card increased from 4 to 6.

- French M201 MILAN base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Canadian M38A1 106mm base availability per card increased from 12 to 16.

- British FV601 Saladin base availability per card increased from 12 to 16.

- Swedish Ikv 91 base availability increased per card increased from 8 to 12.

Tanks

- Soviet T-72 base availability per card increased from 16 to 20.

- Soviet T-72A base availability per card increased from 12 to 16.

- Polish T-55AM2 Merida base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Soviet PT-90 base availbility increased from 8 to 12.

- Soviet T-64B base availability per card increased from 8 to 12.

- Soviet T-80BV base availability per card increased from 4 to 6.

- American M1A1 Abrams base availability per card increased from 4 to 6.

- Danish Leopard 1A3-DK base availability per card decreased from 16 to 12.

- Danish Leopard 1A3-DK's number of cards available increased from 2 to 3.

- W-German KPz M48A2G2 main gun loadout's fixed from 12 (!) to 40 rounds (as all other 105mm M48).

- British Scorpion Light Tank's number of cards available increased from 1 to 2.

Helicopters

- all Pact AA helos (Mi-2URP-G Gniewosz, Mi-2URS, Ka-50 & Sokol)'s SAM RoF fixed to 20rpm (as NATO AA choppers).

- E-German THS Mi-8TV rocket loadout fixed to 96.

- E-German THS-Mi-8TV price increased from 25 to 30$.

- Soviet Ka-29 price decreased from 55 to 50$.

- Soviet Mi-24A price decreased from 50 to 45$ (as the E-German variant).

- Soviet & Polish Mi-24D, and CSSR Mi-25 price decreased from 60 to 55$ (as the E-German variant).

- Soviet Mi-24P & E-German THS Mi-35P price decreased from 85 to 75$.

- Soviet Mi-4AV base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- Soviet Mi-28 base availability increased from 2 to 3.

- Danish TOW Defender base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- Danish TOW Defender price decreased from 45 to 40$.

- American UH-1C Hog base availability increased from 6 to 8.

- American UH-1C Heavy Hog base availability increased from 4 to 6.

- French Puma Pirate's autocannon loaded with incendiary HE rounds: gets more chance to ligh up fires.

- American SeaHawk availability divided into 2 cards.

- Norwegian UH-1B brought to UH-1D standards.

- Norwegian UH-1B price increased from 5 to 10$.

Planes

- Soviet MiG-27 service date changed to 1975

- Pact R-77 missile HE damages increased from 5 to 6.

- all CH-47 Chinook variants' HP increased from 8 to 10.

- Swedish AJ 37 Viggen's Rb75 missile now as the [F&F] trait.

- Swedish AJ 37 Viggen's Rb75 missile's RoF increased (two missiles's salvos).

- French Jaguar A gun ammunitions increased from 150 to 300 (since it is a twin canon). (seems like we forgot to do the same on the British Jaguar, should be fixed in a next patch).

Кратко: востребованные и необходимые балансные правки, во многом побустили ОВД и частично нерфанули смешанную деку НАТО

[IPhoenixLordI]

DLC "Vox Populi" выйдет 1 августа тырк

"preview"

- New Conquest mode.

- Co-op mode for the solo campaigns.

- 5 new multiplayer maps.

- 24 new units (12 per side): 6 planes, 7 infantry units, 9 vehicles/tanks, 2 helicopters.

Those new units are being added for two purpose:

- to meet some popular request and/or fill some omissions in the original decks.

- to "buff" NATO individual minor nations, while strengthening "Pact brotherhood" mixed deck.

Those units will be distributed as follow:

- CANADA: 3

- NORWAY: 2

- DENMARK: 2

- SWEDEN: 2

- W-GERMANY: 2

- GREAT BRITAIN: 1

- POLAND: 4

- CSSR: 4

- E-GERMANY: 3

- USSR: 1

upd.

Изменено 30 июля, 2013 пользователем IPhoenixLordI

[Dzimmu]

т64бв1 это очень интересно. Такой то танк.

А ролик ужасен, просто ужасен.

Изменено 31 июля, 2013 пользователем Dzimmu

[IPhoenixLordI]

оставлю это Wargame Red Dragon здесь :)

[DarthM]

На этом месте мне даже интересно, что они придумают :D

[Senior G]

оставлю это Wargame Red Dragon здесь :)

Анонс был ещё 22 августа, форджа как всегда впереди планеты всей.

Изменено 26 августа, 2013 пользователем Senior G

[Senior G]

Есть желающин угареть по стражения времён "Холодной Войны"?

[Tortique]

Есть желающин угареть по стражения времён "Холодной Войны"?

Я бы поиграл с кем-то, правда опыта в игре у меня всего ничего, если кто-то не против нубского общества, пишите в лс.

[Slaaneshi]

Последнее время всё больше интересуюсь. Из подобного жанра играл в World in Conflict. Сильно отличается?

Так же кто играет, что можно посмотреть/почитать, чтобы более менее освоиться и ознакомиться?

[Skinnie]

WiC более аркадный. Условно говоря, Абрамс абсолютно равен Т-80. У каждого юнита независимо от стороны одно оружие, защитная абилка, атакующая абилка. Тут же более дотошно проработаны ТТХ юнитов, вкл. толщину брони, дальность, скорость перезарядки. Тот же снаряд может не просто нанести урон, а оглушить экипаж, подорвать вражеский боекомплект, заклинить орудие и т.д. WiC чуток поприятней визуально (качество эффектов, анимаций), но тактически и стратегически слабее. Ну и масштаб боев в WiCе заметно меньше.

Играл, но на паблики не вылазил.

Можно попробовать вдвоем-втроем устроить комп-стомп.

Изменено 22 ноября, 2013 пользователем Skinnie

[Senior G]

О, я смотрю наша игра становится популярна.

Отписал Слаанеши и Скинни в личку.