HH-FW-4: Conquest

[Alfаrius]

почему то обновки, что появились в "Мстительном Духе" выглядят сомнительно. Они.. слишком новые что ли)

Так и миниатюры могут выйти далеко не сразу, если ты об этом.

[Monique]

"ПОБОЛЬШЕ И ПОЯРЧЕ"

Every so often we find planets in heresy Horus that have already appeared in the epoch of 40,000. Doing some research, I found this:

Mezoa a Forge World is located in the Gothic Sector, right in the Cyclops system. So we can guess that the Legions will attack the Cyclops system, besiege Mezoa and the Mechanicum will try to defend his planet.
Mezoa appeared in the book Imperial Armour Volume One.

Manachea is the planet that serves as the setting for games played Horus Heresy Weekender. The exclusive model of the Navigator is not only there to gather dust, but it's just part of the story, as his shuttle crashed in the jungles of the deadly moon Manachea Mortis and is played to decide his fate.

There is a planet called only Agathon, but I found one that is called Coronis Agathon and is mentioned in the Regulations for 5th Edition. it is classified as a World Anthill that as Fortress and is home to about 10 million 40k Imperial Guards.

[Monique]

The first seminar of the second day, and quite possibly the most eagerly-awaited… a preview of FW book 4…

“Conquest”

Tony Cottrell, Alan Bligh, Andy Hoare

TC: Quick overview of what will be in the 4th book of the Forge World series of books about the Horus Heresy. It will feature:-

Battles of the Cyclops Cluster “aha – nobody’s heard of that” {year 7}

Siege of Mezoa {year 8} “nobody’s heard of that one either”.

Conquest of Manachea {year 8}

Defence of Agathon {year 9}

Will feature the Sons Of Horus (“because Horus spent the first 2 years of the Heresy sitting in his chair being grumpy”), Death Guard & Mortarion, Iron Hands, Salamanders (a very few), a few Imperial Fists (sponsored by JCB)… Mechanicum (AB: Good and bad), Solar Auxilia (first time we get to see details of these – feature quite heavily), Knights, Titan Legions.

AB: “Conquest” will primarily be featuring several battles that aren’t going to be seen in the novels - the story follows on from Isstvan 5, war spreading out from there, sort of an epilogue to the Isstvan trilogy. Imperium been left utterly reeling from Dropsite Massacre, no cogent resistance to Horus, and warpstorms have carved up a lot of Imperium, stopping travel. “What Horus Did On His Summer Holidays”. Fits between I5 and “Vengeful Spirit”. Horus is consolidating power base, taking resources, worlds, recruiting bases now he knows he’s in for a long war – acting like the warlord he is. Uses his legion & Death Guard to cut swathe through northern Imperium, top section of Segmentum Ultima (up near the Halo Stars? No, Ghoul Stars). There is no real loyalist Space Marine resistance – Horus demands total submission, every world. Make bloody lesson of anyone who doesn’t bend the knee – attacks forge worlds, ordinary worlds, Navy bases – this is their time – the real nightmare unfolds, the greatest weapon the Imperium has ever made – the Space Marine legions – turning on not just the other legions but the Imperium itself. Defenders turn into destroyers. Death Guard unleashed to do to mankind what they’ve done to so many alien races – murder worlds. All worlds have 2 choices – submit to Horus & all his demands unconditionally or die. This is story of the scythe blade cutting into body of Imperium – about who will stand against it (or try to) and who will fall. Mainly about actual defenders of Imperium who aren’t Space Marines – mainly Solar Auxilia. Swept up in this are forge worlds on both sides, including Cyclotrase (spelling?) – if you’ve never heard of it, that’s because by M41 it’s been purged from all records. Was doing dark & terrible things long before HH – joins Warmaster – darkness unleashed. Against them are the Mechanicum of Mezoa who will not submit. Knight Houses on either side swept up in conflict. This is campaign set on many worlds, not one. Intended to present gamers with massive Heresy ‘toolbox’ to allow you to pick any part of Imperium and set up a conflict in it involving SM legions & other defenders etc.

AH: It’s a massive campaign area, much of northern Imperium – campaign rules etc will reflect this, allow gamers a lot of scope. Will have lots of extra rules (the ‘toolkit’) – warzone traits (raid, cityfight, etc) character development, terrain rules (irradiated post-apocalyptic wastes, etc) character survival rules, ways to improve characters as you go along, extra level of Warlord traits on strategic level to allow you to influence how campaign itself is played out. Lots of other bits… relic weapons that various legions (loyalists and traitors) can take, massive toolbox for this campaign and others.

TC: <starts showing screenshots of some pages from “Conquest” – artwork, pictures of legionaries, etc) - Sons of Horus are going to look ‘spikier’ as time goes on.

Solar Auxilia – will be a few different schemes for these.

AB: Army list stuff… full & robust Solar Auxilia army list, including Warlord traits and special characters, Heresy-era list for Questorus Knights which will work slightly different to 40K counterpart – Knights detached from households to go on Great Crusade. Rules for Shattered Legions warbands (mixed remnants of loyalists banding together) – at this stage, Horus has won so far but not a clean sweep. A lot more characters than seen in BL books, eg: Autek Moor & Red Talon… something buried on I5 that isn’t Vulkan which might be coming back – no, it’s not Ferrus, not undead Ferrus (TC: we have to say, Ferrus is DEAD… AB: they did kibosh my idea for an undead mechanical Ferrus… TC: no, not his twin brother either)… some interesting surprises.

QFA: Will there be a book on the Shadow Crusade, Ultramarines vs World Eaters & Word Bearers? TC: We have some plans… not sure yet exactly what we’ll do after this book, but getting Calth & Shadow Crusade covered fairly soon would make sense… not covered in Bk4, and will likely need at least 2 books to properly cover it – Calth, Armatura, Underworld War (TC: I keep saying ‘Underwear War’… “give my pants back you horrible Word Bearer!”).

QFA: Covering Mechanicum & Dark Mechanicum… for Dark Mech will you basically be taking default army list from BK3 and then adding bits to it like the legions? AB: Yes, something like that. Dark Mech won’t get a separate army list any time soon because they’re still mainly using the same kit as the loyalist Mechanicum just with some different kinds of attachments – not at stage of using daemon engines yet. TC: Done the basic army list so far… troops, transports, robots, Knights etc… what we haven’t seen yet are any Ordinatus or other big crazy machines – will eventually get round to those… some will be fairly big, some will be very big.

QFA: Re earlier mention of coming back to primarchs with newer rules… are we going to see new rules etc for those who have descended to a more ‘chaosy’ state? AB: Won’t be seeing any transformative rules for primarchs in Bk4 – it’s not that far along – but chaos primarchs as they go along will get influenced by Chaos – will need new models (giant snake man!) & different rules. Over time will definitely change… will probably do more than 2 versions of Horus.

QFA: Will there be new units for Sons Of Horus & Death Guard in new book? AB: In terms of units with models, not immediately… might do some more stuff later, but this will be more about new styles of fighting, rites of war, new configurations & characters, Legion relics – in 40K there are relics of the Heresy, little-understood lost bits of technology… in the Heresy there are relics of the Dark Age of Technology – far more dangerous. AH: Thing with the relics – will be themed to the character & history of each individual legion – and won’t be just for the legions covered so far, so Space Wolves, White Scars etc.

APOLOGIES! - I'm totally knackered, and barely halfway through the notes for this seminar... so posting the first part tonight, and will hopefully get the second part done tomorrow evening. At least gives you part of it to chew on...

[VaSSis]

Он... Он прекрасен!

[Разжигатель Войны]

Прекрасен, споры нет. Что за модель рыцаря не известно пока?

Каждый раз видя обновление в темке Forge World, залажу туда и надеюсь увидеть Гал Ворбак, а облом.. когда же.. когдааааа

20 числа опен дей с пред продажей новых релизов, как я понял. Какова вероятность, что они в то же время появятся в продаже или хотя бы предзаказе на оф сайте?

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[Alfаrius]

Каждый раз видя обновление в темке Forge World, залажу туда и надеюсь увидеть Гал Ворбак, а облом.. когда же.. когдааааа

Практика показывает, что наборы с предпродаж выходят первыми после мероприятия. Так что оринтеровочно в течение 5 недель жди одержимых.

[VaSSis]

Каждый раз видя обновление в темке Forge World, залажу туда и надеюсь увидеть Гал Ворбак, а облом.. когда же.. когдааааа

ТАк вот же они. Или речь о продаже?

[Разжигатель Войны]

ТАк вот же они. Или речь о продаже?

Именно о продаже) Жду, заказать хочу именно из туманного Альбиона, даже не смотря на два предыдущих пропавших в пути заказа)

[WarMaster6]

Интересно, таких рыцарей тоже запретят на турнирах?

[Разжигатель Войны]

Интересно, таких рыцарей тоже запретят на турнирах?

Имхо в два раза быстрее, чем обычных, форджа же

[Alfаrius]

А это разве не лансер с вариантом вооружения?

[CraSHarK]

А это разве не лансер с вариантом вооружения?

По такой логике Паладин - это Странник с вариантом вооружения. Или наоборот.

Это Cerastus Knight-Castigator

[Листригон]

[ну уж нет]рена они ему такую широкую жопу сделали? был бы поуже, смотрелся бы в разы грацеознее.

а на турнирах не это не запретят, просто по листам из ереси не разрешат играть)))

[Vector109]

а на турнирах не это не запретят, просто по листам из ереси не разрешат играть

фв скорее всего отдельный лист и под вх40к, как с обычным кнайт-лансер

[01101001110010101010110101]

FW OPEN Days

https://vk.com/hh_dark_legion?w=wall-17857617_4945%2Fall

[VaSSis]

А чем рэйвеновский контемптор обмотан?

[Разжигатель Войны]

А чем рэйвеновский контемптор обмотан?

Парень занял первое место среди самых убогих контемпторов

[РВД]

А чем рэйвеновский контемптор обмотан?

Это онитак РГшный орнамент отобразили :oops:

Кто крайний на глазовыколуповательную ложку?

[Monique]

Это онитак РГшный орнамент отобразили :oops:

Кто крайний на глазовыколуповательную ложку?

А чем РГшный-то плох? Нормальный дредноут, как раз в стиле Воронов.

[РВД]

А чем РГшный-то плох?

исполнением. Идея-то может и ничего, но вот исполнение печально.

Бревноуты ПН и ЖВ, напротив, очень хороши

[Alfаrius]

имхо, ГВ дрд самый лучший!

[brRibbotaim]

Контемптор ПН прекрасен, ну в смысле достаточно ужасен для ПН)

[Locke]

И опять Несущих Слово прокатили с контемптором. Ну хоть Гал Ворбак дали.

[Анчар]

А чем РГшный-то плох? Нормальный дредноут, как раз в стиле Воронов.

тем что он похож на младенца проглотившего мяч?

[Retardo Degenerales]

так это общее для всех контемпторов.

Очень понравились его "кархародновские" линии.Я всё боялся,что дизайнеров не хватит более ни на что,кроме птичьих черепков,да крыльев с перьями.А это вполне аутентично.