Forge World - Horus Heresy

[Boooomm]

Ох щи. увидал я рыцаря лансера, чуть со стула не свалился. просто - ШИКАРНО! фордж и гв похоже соревнуются, у кого миньки будут пафоснее круче и больше...

Форджевский рыцарь, похоже с Гончую будет...

Изменено 30 марта, 2014 пользователем Boooomm

[культурки не хватает?]

Какого рожна лансер больше остальных в два раза?? Это легкий то рыцарь с ухудшенной броней в плюс к скорости. Че за муть.

[Dazzar]

Какого рожна лансер больше остальных в два раза?? Это легкий то рыцарь с ухудшенной броней в плюс к скорости. Че за муть.

Если приглядеться, корпус почти такой же, как у паладина/странника, просто ноги в двое длиннее. Тот самый плюс к скорости, ага :P

[Гость Lеgend]

По фоткам он больше в основном за счёт длины ног, что видно и даёт скорость. Но рост с вархаунда перебор, конечно.

Dazzar опередил.

Изменено 30 марта, 2014 пользователем Lеgend

[Торбо]

Почитал я тут правила Альфария...

Alpharius is a great Primarch in my opinion. He has a great rule which I had been guessing may happen which, in basic terms, means he hides within a unit and pops out when you choose to (there is lots more to that which you will enjoy if you are keen on Alpha). He also has some great legion bonuses which also include bonuses to steal the initiative and a preferred enemy bonus.

У меня одного возникло впечатление что ни Альфария, ни Омегона не существует вообще? Не существует физически? Что это просто две души без тел, которые валандаются где и когда захотят, и, если того требует обстановка, вселяются в легионера-ноунейма прокачивая его до невиданных высот аля Рафен вкалывающий кровь Сангвиния?

- Где Кольцо Альфарий?

- ....

- Где Альфарий. А где Альфарий?

P.S.

Я Альфарий?

Изменено 30 марта, 2014 пользователем Torbo

[Листригон]

Ох щи. увидал я рыцаря лансера, чуть со стула не свалился. просто - ШИКАРНО! фордж и гв похоже соревнуются, у кого миньки будут пафоснее круче и больше...

эт тебе, поди, и колобки нравятся?

при этом сделай таз уже, торс в виде треугольника и бедра с щитками и смотрелся бы как в бэке - грациозно, не потеряв своей грубой маханикусности.

и рожа здоровая, слишком.

при подобной конституции тела, его можно было сделать ниже, оставив видимость длинны.

Изменено 30 марта, 2014 пользователем Листригон

[РВД]

Я все понимаю, ногде же плюшки для РГ и альфы?

[Voidrunner]

Ну пока вроде 1 есть. С Кораксом все РГ бегут автоматом на 6",у всех РГ по умолчанию флит.

[Dazzar]

А Альфарий может беково затеряться в рядах своих легионеров, а на втором ходу заменять собой модель в любом отряде.

[Monique]

БЭК ИМПЕРСКИХ КУЛАКОВ!

"ВКУСНОТА!"

Early Years

-1st Battalions were created from across Terra, even in domains where other legions

had ‘Rights of Tithe’

-Recruits were selected from those with the greatest endurance, mentally and physically

-Many were taciturn, slow to talk but quick to act

-Used a wide pool because the VII legion geneseed implantation was painful than other legions

-Described as grim

-Focused on conquest of new systems

-Described as seeing the whole vision of the Imperium, conquering and then holding what was conquered (unlike most other legions)

-Though they excelled at building and garrisoning, their real calling was Crusading

-They would leave well ordered compliant cities in their wake, but were always on the move (massive recruiting efforts sustained them)

-Massed shock assaults were the VII Legions preferred tactics, often with multiple battalions taking to the field.

-Everytime the broke a noncompliant world, they left behind something stronger

-Emperor personally gave them the name the Imperial Fists after their earliest lands they conquered ‘looked as if the Emperor had grasped them in his Fist’

Inwit

-When the Legion reunited with Dorn, there was no culture shift, it just reinforced traits already present because of Dorn’s upbringing on Inwit

-Orbits a red star

-Tidally locked

-Surrounded by a vast network of shipyards and space fortresses, master ship builders

-The people are the worlds only resource, their martial nature led to them conquering a massive tract of space before the coming of the Emperor

-Mixture of Space Prussian Ice Hives and nomadic Eskimos

-Every world was conquered, assimilated, and reinforced but the masters of the world kept their people living in the old ways so they wouldn’t give up their strengths through opulence

-Rogal grew up apart of House Dorn of the Ice Caste, and became Emperor of the Inwit Cluster

-Dorn grew the empire more than any other Emperor, reorganized and trained its armies, and engineered advanced space craft

-When Dorn and the Emperor reunited, the Emperor welcomed a massive and strong empire into his Imperium forged into a tool of war.

Primarch and Legion Reunite

-The Imperial Fists were the Crusaders of the Imperial Truth

-Dorn was calculating, but once committed to an action saw it through to the end

-His rare bursts of emotion were were ‘capable of shaking the ground and darkening

the sun’

-Dorn had a incident with Kurze and a brief falling out with Ferrus Manus because

of his unseen brooding that others couldn’t pick up on

-The integration of the Primarch and Legion was faster than others: When he first

met them, he said nothing until he saw them in battle and told them they had

much to do, and more to learn.

-He gave honor of the rank of High Castellan of the Inwit Cluster to the Legion Master,

tasked him with raising 30 regiments of legionaries, and immediately set

out on the Crusade

-They didn’t draw any riches from conquered worlds like other legions, just recruits.

They recruited as many as the Ultramarine and Word Bearers, but the

trials of initiation were so hard and the geneseed implantation so mentally

and physically painful it killed many.

-New companies were sometimes completely comprised of recruits from cultures

that would get diluted over time

Favored Sons

-As the great crusade continued the Imperial Fists were highly honored and favored

by the Emperor

-When other legions were unable to continue forward, the Emperor would use

the Imperial Fists to regain the initiative, when the frontlines swung back against

the Imperials, the Fists would lead the counter thrust, stalemates and deadlocked

sieges were similarly broken by the Fists.

-They won more personal honors from the Emperor than any other legion

-Their favored treatment, mixed with Dorn’s personality caused some Primarchs

(mostly the traitor Primarchs, to regard him as hubristic and arrogant)

to dislike him, and again his stubbornness wouldn’t allow him to mend

bridges (his biggest flaw IMO).

-The Emperor would task Dorn with ensuring post-conquest compliances were

achieved according to his exact vision

-To many worlds, they considered the Imperial Fists the rock on which the foundations

of the Imperium were built

-Dorn’s mannerisms drew admiration from many as often as it drew their ire (the

Stannis Baratheon of Primarchs)

-Even though Dorn was so highly favored, the Emperor passed right over him for

Warmaster, primarily because of his Draconian and stubborn personality. When

in command, Dorn’s personality would cause friction, unlike Horus who

could get a team together.

-The Emperor instead honored Dorn by making him Praetorian, and it is implicated

that because Horus was given control of compliance and Dorn went

home with the Emperor, that ‘the fate of the Emperor and all his Sons was

set’

Unit Organization and Structure

-Retained Belicosa pattern

-Schism in predominant units: Assault units backed by special weapon units and

heavy support squads. Favorite heavy weapons: Missile Launchers and Lascannons.

-Heavy proponents of Terminator Armor, with large numbers of all 3 patterns.

Get early assault cannons and super storm shields

-Regiment/Crusade/Household to Battaltion to Company to Squad organization

flow

-Templars: Named as the Guardians of the secular Temple of Oaths aboard the

Phalanx. Only Templars can enter as they please

-The Templars were the nominal 1st Company and their commander was always

2nd in command of the Legion

-There was no fixed ‘inner circle’ like the Mournival or 10 Lord Commanders of

the III Legion

-Technically there was nothing between the Dorn and his Captains, but a level

of subdivided command (fleet and siege masters, theatre commanders, and

Marshals)

-Fleet Masters were in charge of the fleet in a campaign, siege masters were in

ultimate command in sieges. These titles were appointed and technically answerable

only to the Primarch himself

-The 1st Captain was the only person outside the Primarch who had unconditional

authority over the legion.

-Castellans and Seneschals commanded fortresses, but retained the title after returning

to the Crusade efforts

War Disposition

-Bulk of IF’s were returning to Terra

-The Fists were never a huge legion, its attrition rates were balanced with its massive

recruitment, which is why they didn’t meet the UM or WB numbers with

similar numbers of recruits

-Estimated to be around 100,000 strong at the outbreak of the Heresy.

-Had a fleet of over 1500 ships and many more bonded by fealty.

-Many of the Fists ships were of the largest classes in the Imperium. Even the Sons

of Horus and Ultramarines didn’t have as many.

Dorn vs Perturabo

-Both were taciturn, both unyielding, both sublime artisans of war

-Instantly disliked one another from their first meeting

-Pattern of interaction might explain the animosity

-Both were stubborn and more so when challenged, spoke rarely, and were brooding

(but Dorn is noted as doing so without others noticing)

-The silence of one would aggravate the other, the blunt honesty would rouse the

other to anger, and once the dispute was begun neither would yield

-Very alike, but the areas of difference might’ve caused the rift: Both favored siege

craft, both were pragmatic in nature, but Perturabo would be brutally direct

and not care about casualties. Dorn wouldn’t baulk at high casualties if there

was no other way, but Perturabo viewed Legionaries as expendable.

-Summed up as a series of pressures, disparities, perceived slights, mischances,

and the two Primarch’s stubborn natures that perpetuated the animosity

more than any event.

Fortresses in the Stars

-The greatest fortresses built by the Fists were star forts

-Imperial Fists relished void war

-Greatest sieges of the Great Crusade were in the void, peerless in high- intensity

void war and ship-to-ship combat

-Treated their ships like fortresses free from gravity

-Dorn rebuilt the phalanx from a massive wreck orbiting Inwit and gave it to the

Emperor

-The Phalanx was more powerful than whole battlefleets and was a lynchpin of

the efforts of the great crusade and played a major role in the defense of Terra.

[ANF]

супа атеизм в империуме. у его местных сс храм клятв. как у ссср был бы храм советов а не дворец. лицедлань жпг.

теперь и дорн был круче всех. и победбольше всех горусов жилиманов и сангвиниев но просто он немного туповат и туговат. окай, ясно понятно. строили лучше и упорнее всех. никого не грабили. раньше были легионом ни рыба ни мясо. срединные парниши. теперь чуть ли не сверху вниз смотрит на топ 3 примархов. блай знает когда надо придерживать коней?

Изменено 31 марта, 2014 пользователем Салопитек228

[Mad_Rat]

-Mixture of Space Prussian Ice Hives and nomadic Eskimos

Лол.

[Mad_Rat]

супа атеизм в империуме. у его местных сс храм клятв. как у ссср был бы храм советов а не дворец. лицедлань жпг.

На самом деле Империум как-то вяло с религией боролся, у Абнетта там половина персов латентные христиане (?).

Изменено 31 марта, 2014 пользователем Mad_Rat

[ANF]

абнетт просто не очень. у того же мака нормально выходило.

просто они у себяв головах не могут отделить 30к от 40к что в бл что в фв. про это уже на западе даже устали шутить

[Monique]

блай знает когда надо придерживать коней?

Блай - это Альфа, про Кулаков писал Френч <_<

[ANF]

А. тогда ничего удивительного. сводный брат маварда чувствуется. фв и их 30к можно прикрывать. все очень плохо лол

[Space Moron]

БЭК ИМПЕРСКИХ КУЛАКОВ!

Збс, щикарно. Хейтеры ИК поумнее должны были заранее оборудовать пуканы автоматической системой пожаротушения. ^^ НН FW это лучшее, что случалось с вахамой в плане бэка и минек.

Изменено 31 марта, 2014 пользователем Space Moron

[Germanareh]

раньше были легионом ни рыба ни мясо. срединные парниши.

Пфф.. каждый легион круче всех легионов, и каждый примарх круче всех примархов, возможно что и нескольких сразу, возможно, что и всех вместе.

Про кого пишем, те и самые нечеловеческие сверхчеловеки, самые превозмогатые превозмогальщики.

[Эскил]

Ну в принципе это логично, ведь не просто так их называли преторианцами. Только вот как теперь другие легионы расхваливать.

[Space Moron]

Только вот как теперь другие легионы расхваливать.

А проблема в чем? В прошлых двух книгах днищ не было (настолку не трогаю, ибо только мини крашу). Все были равно шикарны, даже опущенный в говнокнигах БЛ Лора был реанимирован в знатного чувака, который на бую повертел всех кто его не любил, не ценил, не замечал. Еще раз говорю - все шикарны, от тебя только одно - читай, выбирай что больше по вкусу и никакого БЛ-вского обмазанного соплями картона, т.е. ничего лишнего.

[Monique]

On paper had a strength of 130k but it seems they had a strength closer to 180k based on deployments. They also seemed to have an unusually large recruitment base (*cough*) recovering quickly from even catastrophic losses and obviously had a number of hidden storehouses and manufacturing facilities off the books, see for example the Modified Prototype Mk6 they werent supposed to have (But did in huge numbers) and things like Banestrike rounds and their unusual numbers of warmachines and materiel.

Официально Альфариусов было 130 тысяч, а на самом деле - 180 тысяч.

Ха. Ха-ха.

Ха-ха-ха-ха-ха-ха!

[Monique]

Поклонникам ЖВ спойлер НЕ ЧИТАТЬ!

"Серьёзно, не вздумайте!"

perturabo decimated the legion when he first took command of them, for not being better than the other legions.

have apparently very good gene-seed, with very Little rejection in recruits, was one of the fastest growing legions during the terran pacification, fought alongside the first and fifth legions quite a lot during the pacification of terra.

had their beginnings and recruits drawn from "Sek Amrak" in the Auro Plateau, anybody has any idea where that could be.

the imperial army nicknamed them corpse grinders pre-perturabo, something the fourth legion did not take kindly too...

EDIT: a bit bummed there are no background on their relationship with the World eaters, since they are their only battle-Brothers.

pre-perturabos Discovery the lost 29,000 legionnaires and about two million imperial army troops during a horrible Campaign were their stubborness to accept defeat and rejection of retreating meant they still won, but earned them a lot of critism from most corners of the imperium.

am i the only one who see the imperial fists and iron warriors as two sides of the coin? unquestioning discipline, a stubborn refusal to accept defeat, and don't play well with others(one more than the other)

[Ironheart]

perturabo decimated the legion when he first took command of them, for not being better than the other legions.

Я конечно ожидал чего то дурного, но это просто... нет слов, один стоэтажный мат. <_<

[Monique]

Я конечно ожидал чего то дурного, но это просто... нет слов, один стоэтажный мат. <_<

А то, что они потеряли 29 тысяч легионеров и 2 миллиона солдат из-за собственной упоротости упёртости?

Саламандр хотя бы бросали на смерть, их создавали для самоубийственных миссий - но эти просто не хотели признавать поражение :image030: :image030: :image030:

[Boooomm]

180 тысяч!!!!! а помнится что кто-то загонял что Альфачи малочисленный легион...