Tyranids

[Жарптица]

я вот думаю, щас все использовали термогантов как трупсу, они дешевле итд, ГВ может и тут подсунуть бяку - сделают хорму имбой :)

[sfighrath]

Вот бы хорме рендинг дали как опцию :) Или всем гантам, по аналогии с компьютерными - халявный реинфорс сил прямо во время сражения: за каждую потерю кидаем кубик. На выпавшие шестерки доставляем модели в подразделение.

[Жарптица]

Про фексов продолжают рассказывать, но тошно постить, бедные бегемотики :( Слух про старый рендинг у нидов опять подтверждаеться.

[Амфицион]

А вот это интерсно. Толпы Хурмы обретают смысл, стилеры блестят наманекюренными когтями и где-т ов далеке скаляться Воины(похоже их реально очень круто поднимают - еще бы пластиковый сет, а продаетсья плохо) и Равенеры.

[Mikhail]

старый, это тот что вунда без ап на 6?

[Underoak]

Слух про старый рендинг у нидов опять подтверждаеться.

честно, верится с трудом.

ГВ в новых кодексах стремится к максимальной стандартизации и привязке всего, чего только можно, к универсальным правилам из рульбука.

Если даже некронам хотят ВББ заменить на ФНП, то менять рендинг, который есть у многих армий.... O_o

может все-таки как-то увяжут это с тендрилсами, дадут этот биоморф воинам , у стилеров он и так есть, как-то так...опять же, если его правила не изменят, то хорма или там гаргойлы с рендингом будут иметь перебросы от союзных стилеров/воинов в 2 дюймах...

или дадут какой-нить хитрый приказ/синапс :)

Изменено 19 ноября, 2009 пользователем Underoak

[Дракон]

тарый, это тот что вунда без ап на 6?

Старый, это который вундит при 6 на попадание, а не на пробитие, и который дает +D6, а не +D3 на пробитие техники.

[Жарптица]

Todays Rumors

These rumors are from early on. So subject to all standard rumor caveats. I'm removing those we already have, and those we know to be false.

To support more Fex' in the army an overall reduction in stats should take place, however, increases elsewhere compensate (not sure if they mean in weapons or in the statline)

Crushing Claws are huge "can openers"...+1A, double s (10Max), ignore as, add d6 pen, d3 "wounds"/"vehicle hits" (too good to be true, IMO)

Talons +1A, "pinning"?

Envenomed claws, upgrade to CC symbiotes, wound on 3+

Rending Claws, autowound on 6 on hit, more expensive

Spinefists, fire and run (is this the rumor "subconcious weapon" we heard before?)

Barbed Strangler, large blast, entangle...unit next move as difficult terrain (Again, I thought this was a rumor elsewhere, too)

Bone sword, pretty much the same

Lashwhip, remove X attacks from attacking unit (allocate as wounds), can target individual, but then only affects single model. no min 1A. no longer base contact constrained. (a lot here and it seems complex, so I highly doubt all (or any) this is true, but I have no way to separate wheat from chaff)

Surprise Assault. (I'm not sure where this fits, if its an ability, a psychic thing, a army rule, a deployment rule, etc. If I were guessing I'd think it's lictor or Scuttlers related.) Unit enters play from reserve anywhere on table. must be 12" from enemy. Cannot assault the turn it enters play. Allowed normal DS "run"

Enjoy boys....

По слухам также крашинги смогут носить хайвгарды.

[Костоглот]

бэтлфорс уже в преодере тут:

http://store.miniwargaming.com/product/war...attleforce.html

а кодекс в преодере на маэлсторме

[Zephid]

Костоглот спасибо кончил.... я тут на радостях достал из заначек свои 200 термогантов и кучу хормогантов,... стряхнул с них пыль и подготовил к грунтовке =)

[sfighrath]

Не понял про Barbed Strangler - следующий мув как по трудному ландшафту у стреляющего из него или у того, кого накрыло шаблоном?

Crushing Claws - вот ларчик с карнифексом и открылся просто. Статы ему порезали, зато таким вот оружием возвращаем все на круги своя :)

Изменено 19 ноября, 2009 пользователем sfighrath

[4x_Runa]

I've just made an account on here 10mins ago because I believe that you people would like to know this info first (I'm sure it will start popping up all over the net).

I live in england and over here GW is already starting to send the new Tyranid codex out to a warehouse from which they supply it to their shops.

My brother is a security guard for a transportation company he just called me to inform me that he was hired to protect a crate of books from GW, which he later found out were nid codexes (didn't know GW was that strict on security) anyway they were held at gun point by 4-5 people only 5 mins into the journey and forced to open the back. The thieves ran off with 9 codexs. There is CCTV footage of the robbery but all the assailants are wearing masks.

I know that a lot of you won't believe me but i swear it's true so start expecting a lot of leaks and perhaps even a PDF of the codex I know I'll be searching the net everyday from now on.

I'll put up more details if I get them

Махпахпхахахахх

[Amin]

Crushing Claws - вот ларчик с карнифексом и открылся просто. Статы ему порезали, зато таким вот оружием возвращаем все на круги своя :)

Не силой единой жив карнифекс. Крашинги урезание тафны или кол-ва вундов никак не компенсируют.

[sfighrath]

Не силой единой жив карнифекс. Крашинги урезание тафны или кол-ва вундов никак не компенсируют.

Так ни что не мешает их поднять биоморфами. Вопрос в цене :)

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То ли слуи, то ли идеи чьи-то...

Взято отсюда

So I was just bored pondering what kind of stuff I'd want to see in a 5th edition Tyranid Codex and wondering if the rest of you had any ideas on what changes you'd like to see in a new Nid codex.

HQ:

I want more HQ options! Sure we have Tyrant, Broodlord and Warriors but what about giving us a shootier HQ? Or hell even make the Malanthrope a regular or special character.

I think the Hive Tyrant needs to be revamped. In 4th edition he was an awesome character killer able to own the Daemon Prince and many other HQs out there, that were no match for him. With everything gaining a new codex lately I've seen the power of the Tyrant greatly reduced. So i'm thinkin both the tyrant and broodlord need to have increased strength. Make them S6 and Initiative 6 base before biomorphs.

- Extended Synapse range make it 18" - 24" for Tyrants only.

- S6, T6 and I6 standard.

- BS4 standard

- More attacks! Or make Scything Talons upgrade give +2 attacks (it's 2 talons after all!)

Elites:

Warriors should get better CC abilities. SPECIALLY Fleet of Foot special rule warriors should really be given this ability. Matter of fact I think fleet of foot should be like move through cover, every Nid even MCs should have this to compensate for our 'loss' of speed due to every other army being able to RUN now. Or at the very least give us a 2D6 roll for RUN to make Nids a 'fast cc' army again. Warriors should be more flexible and perhaps given higher BS skill as well to give them a greater range of flexibility in shooting as well as improve the retardedness of scatter shots.

- Fleet of Foot or 2D6 RUN

- BS 3 standard

- S5 or 3/4 Attacks base (I mean come on they have 4 arms!!)

- 4+ save standard (this would help them enormously for such an important unit, and it would make Winged Warriors so much more desirable)

- More psychic powers! I understand the broodlord only having synapse but seriously Warriors seem like capable psychers, why not give them some options? Catalyst, The Horror and Psychic Scream would go great with Warriors.

Lictor should be more stealthy than it is now and able to support nearby units better as well as improving it's ability to bring down vehicles specially the fast ones.

- 4+ cover save standard, nowadays 4+ saves are so common and Lictors are master's of stealth.

- Always have a 2+ save when hiding in cover.

- More attacks! 4 arms again give him 4 attacks standard. 3 attacks doesn't help much makes him pretty weak offensively specially now that rending is nerfed.

- Lictor Tendrils should expand it's benefits 6" - 12" to nearby units, and it should be able to re-roll hits against Vehicles. Taking down anything moving more than 6" is near impossible unless u have a ridiculous amount of attacks.

Troops:

Gaunts I think need to be condensed to include all other variations like Hormagants and Gargoyles. A hormagant is essentially a Gaunt with talons biomorph and a gargoyle is just a termagant with wings.

- Scything Talons gives + 2 attacks. (Giving hormagants 3 attacks base can go a long way)

- 2D6 RUN

- Wings biomorph makes gaunts count as Fast Attack. HOWEVER If you include a Winged Hive Tyrant or Winged Warriors as HQ options, then your Winged Gaunts (gargoyles) count as Troop choices and may hold objectives. (This would be so good I can see many 'Winged Tyranid Armies' in the horizon) Also this gives us options on the guns on the gargoyles. Devourers will likely be the weapon of choice.

- 5+ standard save.

- S4 standard and unchangeable.

Genestealers

- S5 badly needed the nerf on rending is ridiculous.

- 4+ save standard and unchangeable. Or make EC cost much higher for a 3+ save.

- 3 Attacks standard! They have 4 arms for crying out loud.

- Scything Talons give +2 attacks. For a total of 4 attacks base with Talons.

- Remove Feeder Tendrils biomorph as an option (this will make the Lictor much more valuable and justifies an improved range of support on his tendrils) and having more attacks standard keeps the stealers competitive.

- If taking a Broodlord as your HQ choice, Genestealers may be also taken as Elites, FA and HS options. (Genestealer Cults would flourish)

Ripper Swarm

- With the addition of the Malanthrope as an HQ option. Rippers may be capable of holding objectives. (Wouldn't that be sweet? and adds a whole new dimension to Nids?)

Fast Attack

- Add in the FW spores for fast attack choices.

Raveners

- Scything Talons +2 attacks

- T5 and 4+ save

- Lower BS as raveners just don't strike me as being so great at shooting.

- S5 same as genestealers

- If taking a Trygon as Heavy Support allow Raveners to also count as Elite choices.

Heavy Support

Carnifex

- T7 base. Come on now S3 weapons should never be able to wound a fex, and Exoskeleton should make them just as tough as a Wraithlord!

- BS 3 standard.

- 2D6 Run or Fleet of Foot.

- 3/4 Attacks base!

- Immune to Instant Death. (Always in synapse)

- Scything Talons +2 Attacks

- Venom Cannon S = creature S, becomes AP3 and is able to penetrate all vehicles. (Giving us a S9 AP3 Venom Cannon, and with improvements to the Fex's Attack profile that would make it 3 or 4 shots)

- Barbed Strangler could be improved to S+2, making it S10. And just make it AP -, so that everything still gets a saving through. Even against vehicles now it can actually damage a Land Raider and only has a -1 on the vehicle damage chart so that it will need a 6 to destroy it.

Zoanthropes

- Improved Synapse range.

- More psychic powers.

- T5

- No limit on how many you can take as HS

Biovore

- Spore Mines NEVER count as units, so no more giving up victory points.

- Use large blasts instead of small blast.

- T5 and BS 3 or 4 to reduce scatter.

And that pretty much sums up my current ideas on what would improve the Nid codex. Any thoughts or ideas?

Изменено 19 ноября, 2009 пользователем sfighrath

[_Smoke_]

Это к чему?

:?

Обычный wish-list

Изменено 19 ноября, 2009 пользователем _Smoke_

[Жарптица]

это чьи-то домыслы и вишлист

[Dr Darog]

С колокола

There is some talk about the tubes regarding the possiblity of xenos terrain kits later in 2010. It is possible these kits (if they exist) might be tie-ins to some codex releases.

Item mentioned were:

-Tyranid terrain (Forgeworld has plenty of good examples)

-Eldar Webway gates

[Dr Darog]

Про новый ВД

Nothing in WD 360 im afraid, except a nice piece of artwork of a lictor on the back page.

[vbato]

Кстаии вопрос знатокам.

А покатят ли Халковские Стилеры за их Элитную разновидность, вто время как шткатные будут изображать из себя трупсовых?

Элитные Стилеры!!! и Ацидстилеры???

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vbato3/view/133842/?page=0

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vbato3/view/133843/?page=0

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vbato3/view/133853/?page=0

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vbato3/view/133865/?page=1

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vbato3/view/133870/?page=1

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vbato3/view/133880/?page=2

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vbato3/view/133879/?page=1

[Vinni_Pooh]

конверсии ужасны

[Dr Darog]

конверсии ужасны

Ну, почему никто не ставит Имхо?

[Ethical Engineer]

конверсии не везде хорошо смотрятся, имхо

[Суббота]

Мне не понравились криворучки и с головами воинов. А вот с минами - хорошая замена стилерам с реролами на ту хит :) забавная

Изменено 22 ноября, 2009 пользователем Суббота

[Vinni_Pooh]

Ну, почему никто не ставит Имхо?

например, потому что генокрад с головой ворриора, это обьективно гадость. есть такая штука - пропорции, и все такое. но если это нужно объяснять, то имхо тут не поможет.

[Amin]

Согласен, конверсии жуткие :(