Sar Опубликовано 5 марта, 2010 Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 5 марта, 2010 Как таковых комиссаров у техногвардии нет, но "свято место пусто не бывает" варианты 1 - присоединенный к отряду фанатичный адепт с функцией, аналогичной комиссарской (например оператор ошейников) 2 - магос биологус, использующий наркотики/феромоны/допинг-препараты на отряде (а казнь тогда отражает смерть от передозировки) 3 - сержант (а сами сержанты тогда получают "понижение" до капралов). Более низкие характеристики офицеров объясняются тем что их растили для функции отдачи приказов, а не для того чтобы лезть грудью на амбразуру. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Tyranid Опубликовано 5 марта, 2010 Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 5 марта, 2010 По поводу вненнего вида - была на "yahoo groups" команда адептус механикус ( линк посеял:( ), миньки там были офигительные. Покопай, найдёшь может. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Iron Duke Опубликовано 5 марта, 2010 Автор Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 5 марта, 2010 Как таковых комиссаров у техногвардии нет, но "свято место пусто не бывает" варианты 1 - присоединенный к отряду фанатичный адепт с функцией, аналогичной комиссарской (например оператор ошейников) 2 - магос биологус, использующий наркотики/феромоны/допинг-препараты на отряде (а казнь тогда отражает смерть от передозировки) 3 - сержант (а сами сержанты тогда получают "понижение" до капралов). Более низкие характеристики офицеров объясняются тем что их растили для функции отдачи приказов, а не для того чтобы лезть грудью на амбразуру. Понравилось уже вижу обвешенного банками магоса-билогиса Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Iron Duke Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Автор Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 нашел про боевых псайкеров в армии Ад Мехов. -Divisio Telepathica (Psychic weaponry) Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Curse Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 А разве Дивизио Телепатика это не пси-титаны? Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Дарт Йорикус Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Описание техгардов и скитариев меняется от автора к автору. Ничего удивительного, между нами говоря. Разные миры-кузницы + разные местные традиции + разные фракции почитателей Бога-Машины = совершенно разные техностражии и скиитарии. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Iron Duke Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Автор Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 А разве Дивизио Телепатика это не пси-титаны? Нет они стояли после "ординатусов" не думаю, что это титаны, ибо Легионы Титанов были перечислены по сиску намного раньше. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Curse Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Просто практически во всех источниках указывалось, что Дивизио занимается именно пси-титанами. Ну, еще в голову приходят персонажи из Дарк Хереси, но там немного не те масштабы, ИМХО. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
HorrOwl Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Ничего удивительного, между нами говоря. Разные миры-кузницы + разные местные традиции + разные фракции почитателей Бога-Машины = совершенно разные техностражии и скиитарии. Разные авторы = разные АМ. Поскольку канона на них нет, каждый дро фантазирует в меру своей испорченности. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Дарт Йорикус Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Ты не различаешь внешние и внутренние факторы. Внешне, технически, все обьясняется по-твоему. Внутри, бэково, работает мое обьяснение. Отсутствие канона и работа авторов в БЛ декают бэком каждую версию, даже пресловутых технозомби. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
HorrOwl Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Ты не различаешь внешние и внутренние факторы. Внешне, технически, все обьясняется по-твоему. Внутри, бэково, работает мое обьяснение. Отсутствие канона и работа авторов в БЛ декают бэком каждую версию, даже пресловутых технозомби. Слу, мы тут не фанфики обсуждаем, ок?:) Я констатирую факт. Натягивать контрацептив на глобус, пытаясь вместить все заглюки каждого автора БЛ в единую картину мира - это не ко мне. Это, скорееп, на фанфичный форум. Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
Iron Duke Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Автор Жалоба Поделиться Опубликовано 9 марта, 2010 Все ранги АдМехов Organisation of the Adeptus Mechanicus To begin; all the 'divisios' I have quoted below are canon. The function of them is my interpretation based on the evidence, as is my placement of them within the 'collegiates'. Only two collegiates are known to exist - the Titanica and the Extremis. I believe the Explorator to be a collegiate, but, alas, no evidence. Collegiate X -Divisio Y --Organisation Z, presumably or definitively under Y's control Collegia Titanica: Military matters -Divisio Mandati (Command and strategy) --Auxilia Myrmidon --Executive Titan Orders --Missionary Titan Orders -Divisio Militaris (Military logistics) --Skitarii Legions --Military Titan Orders --Ordo Reductor --Legio Cybernetica -Divisio Telepathica (Psychic weaponry) --Telepath Titan Orders -Divisio Investigatus (Advanced military construction and design) --Research Titan Orders --Centurio Ordinatus Collegiate Extremis: Internal security matters -? Collegiate Explorator: Exploratory matters -Divisio Errant (Scouting) -Divisio Archaeologis/Archeos (Archaeology) Collegiate ?: Municipal matters -Divisio Prefectus (Administration) -Divisio Pecuniae (Arithmetic and business/production logistics) -Divisio Lexmechanicus (Applied mathematics) -Divisio Logis (Mathematical analysis) -Divisio Fabricator (Master crafting construction) -Divisio Artisan (Generic construction) Collegiate ?: Scientific matters -Divisio Biologis (Biology) -Divisio Genetor (Genetics) -Divisio Xenobiologis (Alien biology) -Divisio Physic (Physics) -Divisio Astrologicus (Astrophysics and astrology) -Divisio Astrographicus (Warp sciences) -Divisio Psykana (Psychic sciences) -Divisio Orbologis (Earth sciences) -Divisio Alchemys (Chemistry) -Divisio Metallurgicus (Metallurgy) -Divisio Technicus/Technis/Technologis (Technology) -Divisio Xenologis (Alien technology) -Divisio Psychologis (Psychology and sociology) -Divisio Dialecta (Linguistics) -Divisio Digitalis (Computer sciences) -Divisio Cybernetica (Bionics) Ranks of the Adeptus Mechanicus The following is my interpretation of the ranks of the Adeptus Mechanicus. The ranks are all canon (except where otherwise noted in the bibliography below, in which case I am searching through my collection to find where I saw it); their placement is my interpretation based on the evidence. All comments welcome. There are five classes in the Adeptus Mechanicus: The Adepts Inferior, the Novitiates, the Adepts Minoris, the Adepts Majoris, and the Adepts Superior. First in the Adepts Inferior, you have the lay-brothers, those whose only connection to the cult is a brief tutelage in a temple of the machine-god. These use the skills that they learn in their everyday jobs. Then there are the menials, those who do routine work on the Forgeworlds that isn’t delegated to the servitors. Those who have technical potential can become a tech-priest, and these tech-acolytes are presumably trained in Seminaries and selected out of the Menial and Lay-brother population. These, like all Mechanicus personnel below the rank of fabricator-general and archmagos ultima, are on a constant rota of work (In the Mechanicus), study (In a Seminary), or dissemination (Working amongst the Imperial Institutions). They begin to learn of the Sixteen Universal Lores, and begin to learn of the Mysteries of Technology. The next rank up from tech-acolyte is technographer; these learn the mysteries of the Hex Signs and treating Machine Spirits. They become proficient in a particular divisio that reflects their abilities best, and are apprenticed to that divisio. They will learn the ways of that divisio. When working or disseminated, they will chiefly be serving as either more advanced technicians, for when their simple rites and preparations fail, and servicing and using more complicated technology. The highest ranking novitiate in the institution is known as the chief initiate. Each divisio has different Adepts Minoris ranks, and each of these is an expert in a particular subset of the skills in the divisio, such as munitions (in Artisan), generation, augury, cryostasis (in Technicus), etc. A few and their ranks in order of seniority, lowest to highest: Divisio Logis [Analysing data and predicting trends, discrete mathematics]: logistician Divisio Lexmechanicus [Recording data and statistics, applied mathematics]: calculus logi (lexmechanic), arch-calculus logi Divisio Digitalis [Digital encoding and logic engines, computer sciences]: cogitator Divisio Investigatus [Constructing and designing advanced military systems]: fabricator-architect Divisio Technicus [Advanced general repairs and tech-exorcisms]: mech-wright, luminen, enginseer, high enginseer, pater machinae) Divisio Prefectus [Administration]: tech-administrator Divisio Mandati [Military command]: secutor, myrmidon, centurius, tribune Divisio Fabricator [Construction]: construction adept, fabricator-master Divisio Astrologicus [Astrophysics and astrology]: observator Divisio Archaeologis/Archeos [Archaeology]: excavator Divisio Xenologis [Alien Technology or Aliens in general. NB, not accepted on all Forge Worlds]: acquisitor, praefect acquisitor Divisio Pecuniae [business/production logistics and arithmetic]: numerist Unknown Divisiones [in no particular order]: transmechanic, tech-abbot, runic priest, machina-mentor, emissary The first of the Adepts Majoris is simply an adaptation of the divisio name, IE, genetors of Divisio Genetor, orbologists of Divisio Orbologis, biologes of Divisio Biologis (though technomancer is also used on some Forgeworlds), astrologici of Divisio Astrologicus, etc. One thing to note: Unless otherwise stated (Logis, Biologis) any divisio ending is "is" adds a "t" on the end to make this rank. These are the first of the Ruling Members of the Cult Mechanicus, or Adepts Majoris. The ruling members are entitled to do research, but still undergo the rota of work, study and dissemination. There are exceptions to the standard rule, such as techno-archeologist of Divisio Archaeologis, magnus of Divisio Mandati, and on some Forgeworlds, mech-deacon is used instead of prefectus of Divisio Prefectus. These all have the suffix: primaris, primus, secundus, tertius. Above this is the "chief [divisio adaptation, as seen above]. So chief artisan, chief orbologist, etc. These are in charge of all of the Adepts Minoris of their divisio in the ship/institution. Some notable exceptions: genetor-council, chief engineer The next member is the [divisio name]-major (Roughly equivalent to a bachelors degree, presumably). NB, presumably, a tech-priest can change the divisio in which s/he serves within the departmento (Departmento Manufacturum is responsible for manufacturing, and includes all divisiones that are involved in construction, design, metallurgy, etc. Departmentorium Biologis is responsible for biology, and any involved in biology are in this departmento). There are naming exceptions, notably the cyber-seers of Divisio Astrographicus and the omniprophets of the Divisio Errant. Presumably these have the suffix: primaris, primus, secundus, tertius. Above this is the most well known rank of the Cult Mechanicus: The magos [divisio]. Occasionally known as technomagos, or even magister, these can control multiple laboratories. These have offices on the Forgeworld or research station where they are located. The title "magos" may be an abbreviation for "magister of science". This is probably equivalent to a masters degree. These have the suffix of either: primus, secundus, tertius. Primaris equivalent is known as high magos. A title given to the most senior magos on the ship/institution is known as the "chief magos". Then you have the aspiring archmagos, who dedicates their time to becoming an archmagos. An archmagos controls a sector on a Forgeworld. Each archmagos may found or take charge a Seminary that can train new members of the Cult Mechanicus. This is most likely to be equivalent to a doctorate equivalent. In the archmagos' work, s/he is in charge of an aspect of a Forgeworld's running, such as managing work rotas for the entire Forgeworld, etc. Above them is the archmagos veneratus, which may be the highest ranking member of the divisio on the Forgeworld. They still have the control of an aspect of the Forgeworld's runnning. The first rank of the Adepts Superior, which do not have a divisio attached to it is archmagos ultima, and it is the second in command of the Forgeworld, controlling the archmagi and is effectively chief in command of the Armed forces of the Forgeworld. The most powerful archmagos ultima is the archmagos ultima of Mars, and is often regarded as the Archmagos Ultima. A fabricator-general is in charge of a Forgeworld, and the fabricator-general is subordinate only to the Fabricator General of Mars, who rules and directs the entire Adeptus Mechanicus. Like the archmagos ultima of Mars, the fabricator-general of Mars is often referred to as the Fabricator-General. Titles and sub-organisational entities of the Adeptus Mechanicus There are some organisations within the Adeptus Mechanicus that seem have sub-ranks and titles which are assigned to particular tech-priests, along with some groupings of members which I will attempt to elaborate on here. Again, speculation and fact-linking are rife – keep an eye on any words like “seem” and “possibly”. Skitarii Legions Menials with military potential are drafted into the Skitarii Legions, starting off as a skitarius hypaspist (line soldier), but can become a skitarius ballisterai (artillerist), a skitarius sagitarii (heavy weapons trooper), a skitarius cataphract (vehicle pilot), or a skitarius kataphractoi (tracked warrior). Some skitarii become praetorian skitarii, the elite of the skitarii. They are commanded by a corporal, this being the maximum rank a non-ordinated skitarius can reach. The officer class are selected from the ranks of the secutors of the Auxilia Myrmidon of the Divisio Mandati, from tribune upwards, and officers from the Auxilia command both the skitarii and the auxilia troops. Skitarii can be attached to specific magi or archmagi as well as assigned to Forgeworld defence, Titan support, Explorator support, provost duty or occasionally to offensive capabilities. Auxilia Myrmidon The Auxilia Myrmidon is seemingly a sub-organisation of the Skitarii Legions, composed of elite storm troops, known commonly as siege engineers. A secutor is the first rank in the Auxilia Myrmidon presumably as the standard troop, and is also the first Adepts Minoris rank in the Divisio Mandati. Then you have what could be vehicle drivers, the myrmidons, who also serve in the Ordo Reductor. A platoon leader of secutors or myrmidons is known as a centurius. A tribune (commonly known as a lieutenant) commands a century; a magnus (also known as a captain, and perhaps an adept majoris) commands a cohort, with a colonel-priest (perhaps a mandati-major?) having control of a battalion and a magos commander (magos mandati, commonly known as militant?) in charge of the entire Legion. Ordo Reductor The Ordo Reductor is the domain of siege weapons and vehicles. This order is staffed primarily by myrmidons of the Auxilia Myrmidon. The Titan Orders Anyone with the strong will to control a titan can be taken into the Collegia Titanica as a crew member of a Titan, and serve as either a moderatus or princeps cadet. For eight years, they do an observational study. Once approved, they become either a moderatus or princeps - moderati monitor weapons systems and other such duties, whilst the princeps controls the titan itself. A princeps senioris a high ranking princeps in the legion, but the highest ranking princeps in the legion is the princeps maximus. The praetorian princeps - not to be confused with praetorian skitarii or the Guard regiments of Praetoria - is possibly the princeps of the Grand Master. Centurio Ordinatus The Centurio Ordinatus is the organisation that develops the massive ordinati, both majoris and minoris, for the use of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Its ranks appear to be similar to those of the titan orders – princeps and moderati are used, perhaps with the same suffices. The Lord of the Centurio Ordinatus may be a title given to an archmagos veneratus investigatus, perhaps on Mars. Legio Cybernetica The Legio Cybernetica is mainly staffed by ‘technicians’, who are presumably members of the Divisio Technologis, and their skills are highly valued. Collegiate Extremis The Collegiate Extremis is the judicial branch of the Adeptus Mechanicus. It is similar to the Adeptus Arbites in function –traitors to the Omnissiah are prosecuted and their crimes analysed. At its head is the Lords Dragon, an ancient cabal orchestrating the collegiate, perhaps of archmagi veneratus of whatever divisiones are in the collegiate. The main leaders of the Collegiate Extremis would, in theory, be on Mars, and each Forgeworld would have a Lord Dragon of its own to command the local members of the collegiate, but this is based on circumstantial evidence. The collegiates will is enforced on Forgeworlds by attached skitarii provosts, as they are known. Knight Houses The knight houses are an auxiliary of knight titans for the Mechanicus to draw upon when needed. As part of the Adeptus Mechanicus (but not the Cult Mechanicus), the leader of a household is typically a ‘baron’, though specific titles vary immensely. There are a number of households within a single knight house. Fraters Astrotechnicus The techmarines of the Adeptus Astartes, or frater astrotechnicus as their traditional name goes, are priests of Mars and are given ranks exist outside of the standard structure of the Mechanicus. They would begin as an apprentum, trained on Mars and sent back to their Chapter to complete his training. They then become a full fledged techmarine, who may one day become a techmarine suprema, presumably in charge of several techmarines. A Chapter’s Master of the Forge is the highest ranking techmarine in the Chapter, and is held in high regard. Divisio units Some divisiones organise their members into teams for organisation purposes, such as enginseer teams for the Divisio Technologis and ordnance teams for the Divisio Prefectus. The Collegiate Extremis has at least one type of unit of members dedicated to hunting heresy: the diagnostic coven, which has the authority to shut down hive cities on Forgeworlds. Bibliography Below are the sources for all of this. If it’s got a question mark next to it, it means I can’t remember where I read it, and I hope to reread it soon. Divisions Alchemys – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 – Divisio entity Archaeos/Archaeologis – Xenology, Eldar report, pg 24 (From first in character page)/Tales of the Dark Millennium, pg 157 – Divisio entity Arcanum – Warhammer Siege, pg 112 – possible divisio entity Artisan – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 – possible divisio entity Astrologicus – Necron Codex, pg 49 – possible divisio entity Biologis - 4th Ed. Rulebook, pg 121 – divisio entity Cybernetica – 4th Ed. Rulebook, pg 121 – divisio entity Dialecta – 3rd Ed. Space Marine Codex, page 45 – possible divisio entity Digitalis – Dark Adeptus, pg 9 – divisio entity Errant – Legacy, pg 103 – divisio entity Extremis – Necron Codex, pg 49 – collegiate entity Explorator – Explorator Warbands, Fanatic Magazine 5 – possible collegiate entity Fabricator – Imperial Armour I – divisio entity Genetor - 4th Ed. Rulebook, pg 121 – divisio entity Investigatus – Adeptus Titanicus – divisio entity Lexmechanicus – Dark Adeptus, pg 9 – divisio entity Logis – Eye of Terror, pg 90 – divisio entity Mandati – Adeptus Titanicus – divisio entity Metalurgicus/Metalurgus – Codex Imperialis, pg 41/Dark Adeptus, pg 9 – divisio entity Orbologis – Necron Codex, pg 32 – possible divisio entity Pecunius – Dark Adeptus, pg 9 – divisio entity Physic – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 – divisio entity Psychologis - Dark Adeptus, pg 80 – divisio entity Prefectus – Necron Codex, pg 32/Rogue Trader, pg 143 – possible divisio entity Psykana – Thorian Sourcebook, pg 10 – divisio entity Technicus/Technis/Technologis – Codex Imperialis, pg 41/3rd Edition Rulebook, pg 282 – divisio entity Telepathica – Adeptus Titanicus – divisio entity Titanica – Adeptus Titanicus – collegiate entity Xenobiologis – Dark Adeptus, pg 9 – divisio entity Xenologis – 3rd ed. Eldar Codex, pg 3 – divisio entity Sub organisations Skitarii Legions – 4th Edition Rulebook, pg 141 Auxilia Myrmidon – Dark Heresy Inquisitor’s Handbook, pg 68 Ordo Reductor - Warhammer Siege, pg 110 + Dark Heresy Inquisitor's Handbook, pg 136 Titan Orders – Adeptus Titanicus, pg 6 Centurio Ordinatus - Epic 40,000 Armies book, pg 24 Lords Dragon - Dark Heresy Inquisitor's Handbook, pg 136 Knight Houses - Codex Titanicus, pg 27+ Frater Astrotechnicus - 3rd Edition Codex Space Marines, pg 44 + White Dwarf 105 Enginseer and ordnance teams - Imperial Armour vol. 3, pg 39 Diagnostic coven - Dark Adeptus, pg 33 Ranks: Lay Brothers Technical Assistant – Rogue Trader, pg 240 [Lay-brother rank] Technician – White Dwarf Compendium, pg 96 [Lay-brother rank] Repair Mechanic – Eye of Terror, pg 247 [Lay-brother rank] Under-Technician – Rogue Star, pg 243 [Lay-brother rank] Crew Chief – Rogue Star, pg 243 [Lay-brother rank] Ranks: Adepts Inferior and Novitiates Menial – Dark Adeptus Praetorian – Citadel Journal 21 Hypaspist – Citadel Journal 21 Sagitarius – Citadel Journal 21 Ballisteraus – Citadel Journal 21 Cataphractarius – Citadel Journal 21 Kataphractoi – Dark Apostle, pg 323 Tech-acolyte – Inquisitor Sketchbook Technographer – Dark Heresy Tech-adept – Let the Galaxy Burn: Acceptable Losses, pg 497 + White Dwarf Compendium, pg 100 [invalidated – probable general term] Chief ~ – Farseer, pg 104 Chief initiate - ? Princeps: Adeptus Titanicus, pg 6 Veteran ~ – Epic Adeptus Mechanicus Collegia Titanica list V2 [invalidated – probable general term] ~ Senioris/Senior ~ – TL Codex Titanicus pg 14/TL Codex Titanicus, pg 20 ~ Maximus – Space Wolf Omnibus pg Praetorian ~ – Codex Titanicus pg 27 Tactical Officer – Let the Galaxy Burn: Battle of the Archeosaurs, pg 723 Moderati – Adeptus Titanicus, pg 6 Moderati Primus – False Gods Legate – Epic Adeptus Mechanicus Collegia Titanica list V2 Grand Master – Adeptus Titanicus, pg 3 Lord of the Centurio Ordinatus - Epic Adeptus Mechanicus Collegia Titanica list V2 Ranks: Collected divisio ranks spanning Adepts Minoris and Majoris Secutor – Dark Heresy Inquisitor’s Handbook Myrmidon – Dark Heresy Inquisitor’s Handbook Centurius – Dark Heresy Inquisitor’s Handbook Tribune – Epic Adeptus Mechanicus Collegia Titanica list V2, Dark Heresy Inquisitor’s Handbook Lieutenant – Inferno 41, pg 8 Captain – Dark Adeptus, pg 83 Colonel-priest – Soul Drinker, pg 76 Magos Commander – Soul Drinker, pg 184 Questor – Warhammer Siege, pg 112 Explorator – White Dwarf 281, pg 108 + Fanatic Magazine 5, pg 39 Master Explorator – Let the Galaxy Burn: Barathrum, pg 548 Explorator Magos/Magos Explorator – Deus Ex Mechanicus Explorator General – Tyranids Codex [2nd Edition], pg 5 + Epic: Hive War, pg 6 + Tyranids Codex [4th Edition], pg 6 Acquisitor: – Chapter Approved: First Book of the Astronomicon, pg 106 Praefect ~ – Chapter Approved: First Book of the Astronomicon, pg 106 Xenologist – Codex Tyranids [4th Edition], pg 24 Apprentum – Codex Space Marines [3rd Edition], pg 46 Techmarine – Codex Space Marines [3rd Edition], pg 46 Techmarine Suprema – Codex Space Marines [3rd Edition], pg 46 Master of the Forge – Codex Space Marines [3rd Edition], pg 46 Cogitator – Caves of Ice, pg 35 Electro-priest – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 Mech-Wright – Dark Heresy Engin(s)eer: Codex Imperialis, pg 41 High ~ – Chapter Approved: First Book of the Astronomicon, pg 106 Chief ~ – Let the Galaxy Burn: Battle of the Archeosaurs, pg 717 Siege ~ – Soul Drinker, pg 48 Combat ~ – ? Apprentice ~ – Soul Drinker, pg 182 [invalidated – more likely a menial rank] Machina-mentor – Inquisitor Rulebook, pg 80 Lexmechanic: Codex Imperialis, pg 41 + Da Uvver Book, pg 106 Calculus Logi – Inquisitor Sketchbook, pg 36? Arch ~ – Legacy, pg 158 Observator – Medusa V campaign book, pg 7 Astrologicus – Da Uvver Book, pg 105 + Necron Codex, pg 32 Rune Priest – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 Transmechanic – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 Genetor: Codex Imperialis, pg 41 Genetor-Council – Battle for Armageddon, pg 110 Biologis – Da Uvver Book, pg 106 Excavator – Let the Galaxy Burn: Barathrum, pg 558 Techno-Archeologist – White Dwarf #245 Orbologist: Chief ~ – Da Uvver Book, pg 103 + Necron Codex, pg 32 Xenobiologist – 3rd Edition Rulebook, pg 117 Tech-abbot – Nightbringer, pg 197 Numerist – Space Wolf Omnibus, pg 445 Lexist – Last Chancers Omnibus, pg 361 Tech-administrator – Dark Apostle, pg 48 Prefectus: Rogue Trader, pg 143 Adeptus ~ – Da Uvver Book, pg 105 + Necron Codex, pg 32 [invalidated – see Codex Imperialis, pg 48] Fabricator-Master – Armageddon Website, Order of the Argent Shroud Logisitician – Necron Codex, pg 4 Logis – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 Master ~ – Rogue Trader, pg 82 [invalidated – more likely to be a general term] Artisan – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 Chief ~ – Imperial Armour Volume 2, pg 49 Fabricator-Architect – Eisenhorn Omnibus, pg 451 Munition Artisan – Imperial Armour Vol 1, pg 11 Construction Adept – Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness, pg 241 Munition-Adept – Imperial Armour Vol 1, pg 53 Venerated ~ – Imperial Armour II, pg 12 [invalidated – more likely to be a general term] Technomancer – Dark Heresy Mech-Deacon – Dark Heresy Cyber-Seer – Dark Heresy Omniprophet – Dark Heresy Emissary – Dark Heresy Inquisitor’s Handbook, pg 57 Ranks: Adepts Majoris [General] Tech-priest: Codex Imperialis, pg 41 [invalidated – more likely to be a general term] Chief ~ – Dark Millennium, pg 24 [General term?] [---]-Major – Da Uvver Book, pg 106 Magos – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 High Magos – Imperial Armour Volume 1, pg 11 Chief Magos – Australian White Dwarf 258 Aspiring Archmagos – Vessels of Mars, Fanatic Online 92 Archmagos – Soul Drinker, pg 23; Dark Adeptus, pg 59; Necron Codex, pg 58 Archmagos Veneratus – Dark Adeptus, pg 15 Ranks: Adepts Superior Archmagos Ultima – Dark Adeptus, pg 15 Fabricator General – Fanatic Magazine 5, pg 38 Fabricator-General of Mars – Codex Imperialis, pg 41 Ссылка на комментарий Поделиться на другие сайты Поделиться
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