Company of Heroes 2

[DarthM]

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Update September 9th, 2014

War Spoils

War spoil optimizations will result in greater item variation; previously some item categories were weighed heavier than intended resulting in a greater drop frequency. e.g. face plates. In addition, we have enhanced the player’s ability to sort and filter items within the inventory. A new Wehrmacht commander has also been added to the game. It focuses on infiltration tactics, territory control, and offensive maneuvers.

Commanders

Wehrmacht Encirclement Doctrine added to store

Soviet Tank Hunter Tactics added to store

War Spoils

Wehrmacht Encirclement Doctrine added to war spoils

Added 40 new bulletins to war spoils

Added 4 new victory strikes to war spoils

Inventory

Players are now able to hide duplicates items in their inventory

Players can now organize items within the inventory in alphabetical order

Map Rotation Spotlight

As part of our continued support of community created content, we have incorporated five community maps into the custom game list. Our goal is to incorporate more community created maps in the future, so make sure to submit your work into the Steam Workshop as it may be featured next!

Custom Game Maps

Added (2-4) Overgrowth

Added (2-4) Karelia Summer

Added (4-6) Lemberg Fall 1944

Added (6-8) Pinsk Marshes

Added (6-8) Narva River

Units and Abilities

Our intent with changes to units or abilities focuses on broadening the variation in tactics and strategies, while reducing the potential for undesirable or uninteresting gameplay.

Guard Riflemen DP-28 ‘Button’

The intent of these changes is to provide the opposing player an opportunity to react and counter the usage of button. Currently, the ability is very one sided, it provides the Soviet player with a quick and easy to execute vehicle snare without much counterplay in-between. By providing the opposing player with a way to react, the counter-play relative to unit positioning is better defined, thus reducing the receiving player’s frustration when the ability is executed.

Speed reduction from 0.1 to 0.33

Added rotation reduction of 0.33

Acceleration from 0.1 to 0.5

Deceleration from 8 to 2

Main gun set to active

Main gun rate of fire set to fire 1.56x slower

Pack Howitzer

Shells that fired directly upon their target did so with greater speed and potency, which resulted in a mixture of behavior from the unit. Our intent was to clarify the unit’s performance by making the behavior more predictable to the opposing player, allowing them to properly position and react to the oncoming fire.

Now uses an arced projectile trajectory; no longer direct fires on target

Dodge WC51

Our intent was to delay the dispatch of this unit in an effort to provide the opposing player more time to prepare for light armor.

Command point cost from 0 to 1

M20 Utility Car

Previously, vehicle build time was used as a means of regulating the pacing of the USF’s vehicles. This is no longer required allowing us to reduce their current build times.

Build time from 60 to 45 seconds

M5A1 Stuart

The functionality of Shell Shock was modified in a number of ways to reduce its potency versus medium and heavy vehicles. Previously, the ability afforded the Stuart a great deal of flexibility in what targets it could frontally engage, limiting the need to flank with the unit. The reduced penetration of Shell Shock helps elevate this issue, while still retaining the value of the ability through deflections. Additionally, the Stuart’s build time was reduced as it is no longer required to regulate the pacing of the unit.

Build time from 75 to 50 seconds

AOE penetration from 60/30/15 to 30/22.5/20

Shell shock stun duration from 5 to 3 seconds

Shell shock ready aim time from 0.125 to 0.25-0.5

Shell shock AOE penetration from 0 to 30/22.5/20

Shell shock penetration from 180/100/30 to 60/45/40

Shell shock turret traverse speed from 100 to 52

Shell shock scatter modified to match main gun scatter

Shell shock range distance modifiers set to match main gun range distance

M8A1 HMC

Shells that fired directly upon their target did so with greater speed and potency, which resulted in a mixture of behavior from the unit. Our intent was to clarify the unit’s performance by making the behavior more predictable to the opposing player, allowing them to properly position and react to the oncoming fire.

Now uses an arced projectile trajectory; no longer direct fires on target

M4A3 Sherman

Previously, vehicle build time was used as a means of regulating the pacing of the USF’s vehicles. This is no longer required allowing us to reduce their current build times.

Build time from 75 to 55 seconds

105mm Sherman

Modified the main gun behavior such that it functions similar to the M8A1 HMC. The gun will now use an arced shot as opposed to directly firing upon its targets. This enables the unit to fire over certain objects, but also adds a small delay to its time on impact. The added time to impact was an intentional addition which provides the opposing player more room to maneuver and therefore mitigate the damage they take from these potentially squad wiping shots. Since the opposing player now has a means of mitigating the damage, the overall impact of the shell has been increased.

Now uses an arced projectile trajectory; no longer direct fires on target

AOE radius from 4.5 to 5.5

M36 Jackson

Previously, vehicle build time was used as a means of regulating the pacing of the USF’s vehicles. This is no longer required allowing us to reduce their current build times.

Build time from 90 to 60 seconds

M4A3E8 Sherman

The Easy Eight was previously over performing for its cost, its cost was increased to better reflect its in-game value.

Manpower cost increased from 380 to 400

Fuel cost increased from 135 to 145

Osttruppen

Osttruppen have seen a drastic increase in their performance, they are now effective at mid to long ranges.

Near accuracy from 0.45 to 0.55

Mid accuracy from 0.4 to 0.52

Far accuracy from 0.35 to 0.49

Near aim time modifier from 0.125 to 0.375

Far aim time modifier from 4 to 3.25

Near cooldown modifier from 0.125 to 0.25

Modified cover modifiers to match Grenadier KAR 98

Accuracy cover bonus from 2 to 3

Added a received accuracy modifier of 1.25

Panzer Grenadiers

We wanted to better establish the mid-range role of this unit. We lowered its short range damage output and increased its mid range performance. Additionally, we further increased its durability to reduce damage received on approach.

Received accuracy modifier from 0.87 to 0.8

Near accuracy from 0.56 to 0.5

Near range distance from 8 to 5

Mid range distance from 16 to 19

Brummbar

Modified the main gun behavior such that it functions similar to the M8A1 HMC. The gun will now use an arced shot as opposed to directly firing upon its targets. This enables the unit to fire over certain objects, but also adds a small delay to its time on impact. The added time to impact was an intentional addition which provides the opposing player more room to maneuver and therefore mitigate the damage they take from these potentially squad wiping shots. Since the opposing player now has a means of mitigating the damage, the overall impact of the shell has been increased.

Now uses an arced projectile trajectory; no longer direct fires on target

AOE radius from 5 to 6

Angle scatter from 7.5 to 6

Distance scatter max from 4 to 2.5

Armor from 210 to 260

Target Weak Point replaced with Bunker Busting Barrage

Teller Mines

This removes the possibility of the mine instantly destroying the M36 or M10, something we viewed as undesirable and overly frustrating to the opposing player.

Damage from 500 to 400

Cost from 60 to 50 ammunition

Riegel AT mine

We lowered the damage of the Riegel AT mine to maintain the differences in behavior relative to the Teller.

Damage from 400 to 320

Cost from 60 to 50 ammunition

Luftwaffe Medical Supplies

No longer provides healing during combat; resumes healing once squad is out of combat

Removed bonus damage and armor modifiers

Added received accuracy modifier of 0.87

Added accuracy modifier of 1.15

MG34

The previous update increased the suppression of the MG34 to a level slightly higher than the MG42. Our intent with this change is to positon the MG34 slightly below the MG42, in regards to both damage output and suppression.

Near accuracy from 0.6 to 0.68

Rate of fire from 14 to 12

Rate of fire far modifier from 1 to 0.9

Focus fire from true to false

Reload duration from 8 to 6

Setup duration from 2 to 3 seconds

Nearby suppression radius from 12 to 11.5

Suppression from 0.0159 to 0.012

le.IG 18 Infantry Support Gun

Shells that fired directly upon their target did so with greater speed and potency, which resulted in a mixture of behavior from the unit. Our intent was to clarify the unit’s performance by making the behavior more predictable to the opposing player, allowing them to properly position and react to the oncoming fire.

Now uses an arced projectile trajectory; no longer direct fires on target

Sturmpioneer Medical Supplies

No longer enables healing during combat

Jaeger Light Infantry

We wanted to better define the role of the Jaeger Light Infantry as a recon unit while improving its provided utility to the player. The single G43 rifle enables the squad to ‘snipe’ enemy infantry, performing effectively at long range. Combined with its above average sight range, ability to spawn behind enemy lines, and booby trap ability, this squad enables the player to harass the opposing players infantry and economy.

Squad no longer fully equipped with the G43 rifle; base rifle switched to KAR 98

Squad now equipped with one G43 sniper rifle; instantly kill entities at or below 75% health on hit

Added ‘Infiltration Tactics Grenade’ ability to the squad

Manpower cost from 340 to 300

Obersoldaten

We converted the unit’s armor into received accuracy, as received accuracy blends in better with the current structure of infantry combat. Units can negate the received accuracy through veterancy and positioning; whereas, armor is only negated through penetration which heavy weapons possess. Additionally, the damage of the KAR 98 was increased to offset the damage reduction on the LMG34.

KAR 98 damage from 14 to 16

Armor from 1.25 to 1

Received accuracy modifier from 0.87 to 0.7

Kubelwagen

This change is geared towards improving the suppressive performance of the Kubelwagen versus larger groups of units. Previously, it was too easily overwhelmed and therefore failed to function as a reliable suppression platform. The unit still retains its vulnerability to flanking and anti-tank weaponry, requiring the user to be mindful of its limited firing arc and position.

Population cost from 4 to 6

Mid accuracy from 0.55 to 0.5

Far accuracy from 0.35 to 0.16

Rate of fire from 8 to 12

Moving accuracy from 0.5 to 0.75

Moving burst multiplier from 0.1 to 0.5

Moving cooldown multiplier from 0.125 to 0.25

Range from 35 to 40

Mid range distance from 20 to 25

Far range distance from 35 to 40

Nearby suppression multiplier from 0.6 to 0.75

Nearby suppression radius from 10 to 12

Suppression from 0.008 to 0.0053

Firing arc from 45 degrees to 30 degrees

251 Flak Half-track

This unit suffered from extremely low life expectancy due to its unresponsiveness when engaged by a threat. By removing the tear down, the unit is less likely to be destroyed by an advancing threat. However, the increased setup time prevents the player from using this unit in an overly aggressive manner, reinforcing its design as a defensive platform.

Setup time from 3 to 4 seconds

Tear down time from 2 to 0 seconds

Panther Variants

The Panther currently under performs within the current meta. We attribute this largely to the addition of new counters, such as the M36, as well as the high research cost associated to unlocking this unit. Overall, the unit did not feel like a reliable counter to medium armor. We believed this to be a result of its low accuracy and durability. Our intent is to reposition the Panther as an effective counter to medium and heavy vehicles. It should be a dominating force when engaging in a frontal assault, but remain vulnerable when flanked from the rear.

Frontal armor from 290 to 320

OKW Panther accuracy from 0.025/0.0375/0.05 to 0.035/0.045/0.06

Wehrmacht Panther accuracy from 0.025/0.0375/0.05 to 0.03/0.045/0.06

Sturmtiger

The Sturmtiger previously suffered from a number of usability issues related to its ability to hit its target. The shell tended to collide prematurely with world objects resulting in an unintended ignition of the ammunition. By modifying the shell to ignore shot blocking and pierce, these occurrences will no longer occur. However, this has resulted in an improvement to the unit’s efficiency and utility, as it can now be used to fire through anything within the world.

Now ignores shot blocking

Now pierces through world objects

Barrage can no longer be used on a specific target; it will only take a position within the world. This prevents it from homing in on a selected unit.

Barrage range from 45 to 40

Jagdtiger/Elefant

Increased the projectile speed of the main gun to improve the visuals and responsiveness

Off-maps and Loiters

Off-maps with the loiter functionality will now display their activation zone, illustrating potential dangers on the battle field.

Loiter Abilities

Now display an in-game reticle which reveals the engagement zone of the plane

P47 Rocket Strafe

We added a second P47 Thunderbolt to reduce the extremes this off-map tended to produce. Previously, it was either fairly effective or would completely miss its target. This change makes the off-map feel more consistent in terms of damage output while also providing the opposing player the opportunity to react before losing a unit.

Now dispatches two P47 Thunderbolts

Second plane dispatched 4 seconds after first

Damage from 160 to 80

Plane attack delay from 5 to 8 seconds

Number of attacks per plane from 2 to 3

Time range between planes maximum from 10 to 4

Recharge time from 60 to 120 seconds

Stuka Suppression Run

The recharge timer was significantly increased to prevent the player from pinning the opposing player into their base. Additionally, the cost was increased to better reflect the value of this ability.

Recharge duration from 93 to 180 seconds

Cost from 120 to 150 ammunition

USF 155mm Howitzer Off-map

This change prevents the destruction of a full health OKW base structure.

Shells fired from 15 to 12

Damage from 130 to 120

OKW 105mm Howitzer Off-map

Adjusted the performance of this ability so it no longer destroys the USF base when used at maximum potency. Also reduced the length of time it can deny an area by reducing the total shell count and activation time of each salvo in the barrage.

Increased required ammunition for each additional salvo by 200

Reduced the number of shells fired from each additional salvo from 15 to 5

Barrage radius now tightens as it progresses to each new tier

Ability no longer triggers if ammunition requirement is met at a later point in the game

Prioritize Vehicles

We have created a new ability similar to hold fire which enables the user to restrict main gun fire based on target type. For example, an Elefant with priority targeting activated would no longer fire on infantry; instead, the unit would only engage vehicles. This greatly enhances the usability of a unit by restricting unwanted vehicle rotation and enhancing weapon efficiency.

Prioritize Vehicles

Added a new ability on anti-tank units which only restricts fire against non-vehicle targets. This should greatly improve the usability of these units as they will now only fire on vehicles when set to this restricted firing state.

Hand Held AT

Our intent is to reduce the accuracy of hand held AT versus infantry, reducing the number of killing blows it is capable of dealing. Additionally, we want to put a greater emphasis on positioning the squad as close as possible to the opposing armored unit; discouraging the use of these weapon types at max range.

M9 Bazooka

Accuracy reduced from 0.03/0.0425/0.055 to 0.025/0.0375/0.05

Weapon scatter increased as it was previously too tight, resulting in frequently missed shots resulting in a hit versus armored targets. The increased scatter also reduces the likelihood of a shot hitting a stationary squad.

Angle scatter from 7.5 to 18

Distance scatter max from 10 to 14

Panzershrek

Weapon scatter increased as it was previously too tight, resulting in frequently missed shots resulting in a hit versus armored targets. The increased scatter also reduces the likelihood of a shot hitting a stationary squad.

Angle scatter from 7.5 to 16

Distance scatter max from 10 to 15

Weapon Priority Tuning

Weapon priority determines what target is automatically engaged when a unit is not given an explicit attack order. We have modified the values of each weapon such that it more intuitively engages targets of interest relative to its effectiveness.

Modified Units

StuG III E

StuG III G

Panzer IV

Panzer IV Command

Tiger

Brummbar

222 Scout Car

Elefant

Panther

IS-2

ISU-152

KV-1

KV-2

KV-8

M4C Sherman

SU-76

SU-85

T34-76

T34-85

T70

Stuart

Unit Weapon Priority Modifications

This increases the perceived value of these units, increasing the likelihood they will be automatically targeted by another unit.

Katyusha

Panzerwerfer

Suggested Target

Explicit user orders will now always be executed so long as sight is maintained and no shot blocker is present to prevent the shot from being fired.

Suggested target weapon priority set to 1000

Infantry Combat Tuning

The intent of these changes is to better define the strengths and weaknesses of each core unit relative to one another. We wanted to better define how each core unit should engage their perspective targets. For example, in a Grenadier vs. Riflemen match up, the Grenadiers want to maintain range. This is now a valid tactic, where in the past it was not. An integral element to this iteration is the introduction of received accuracy in place of raw damage. This was used in instances where additional fire power was not necessary in maintaining the established unit relationships. For example, Grenadier long range fire power is high enough to establish the unit’s relative relationship with other units, allowing us to increase their durability instead. As a by-product of this shift, short and mid range units should have an easier time closing in on their target.

LMG Weapon Profiles

We adjusted the LMG profile by scaling its damage output down. We found that the value of long range damage, which the LMG was designed around, was more valuable than we had previously anticipated. In addition to scaling the weapon down, we lowered the damage output at short and mid ranges to make the unit more vulnerable to other units that excel at these ranges.

DP-28

Near accuracy from 0.62 to 0.56

Mid accuracy from 0.5 to 0.45

Far accuracy from 0.44 to 0.39

Near rate of fire modifier from 1 to 0.82

Weapon Rack M1919

Near accuracy from 0.64 to 0.57

Mid accuracy from 0.52 to 0.47

Far accuracy from 0.47 to 0.42

Near rate of fire modifier from 1 to 0.82

Suppression from 0.004 to 0

Paratrooper M1919

Near accuracy from 0.6 to 0.53

Mid accuracy from 0.48 to 0.43

Far accuracy from 0.43 to 0.38

Near rate of fire modifier from 1 to 0.82

Suppression from 0.006 to 0

Grenadier LMG42

Near accuracy from 0.56 to 0.5

Mid accuracy from 0.44 to 0.39

Far accuracy from 0.38 to 0.33

Near rate of fire modifier from 1 to 0.82

Obersoldaten MG34

Near accuracy from 0.57 to 0.51

Mid accuracy from 0.45 to 0.4

Far accuracy from 0.39 to 0.34

Near rate of fire modifier from 1 to 0.82

Browning Assault Rifle

Damage output was reduced at long range to reinforce this weapon’s short to mid range role. Previously, equipping the BAR enabled Riflemen to excel at long range relative to other infantry, reducing the importance of positioning when using this weapon upgrade.

Near accuracy from 0.65 to 0.56

Mid accuracy from 0.5 to 0.44

Far accuracy from 0.35 to 0.3

Mid rate of fire modifier from 1.16 to 1

Far rate of fire modifier from 1.33 to 1

Mid cooldown modifier from 1 to 1.25

Far cooldown modifier from 1.25 to 1.5

SMG Weapon Profile

We found that effective use of a SMG weapon required the user to fire at near point blank ranges. This increased the difficulty in properly executing this weapon against opposing units. By modifying the weapon’s range distance, we are able to ease this requirement therefore improving usability. Consequently, the performance of the listed SMG weapons has been improved.

Partisan PPSH

Moving accuracy from 0.6 to 0.7

Wehrmacht Weapon Crews MP40

Range distance near from 8 to 10

Range distance mid from 15 to 17

Captain Thompson

Range distance near from 8 to 10

Range distance mid from 16 to 19

Conscript PPSH

Moving accuracy from 0.8 to 0.75

Assault Grenadier MP40

Range distance near from 8 to 10

Range distance mid from 16 to 17

Assault Engineer M3

Range distance near from 8 to 10

Range distance mid from 14 to 18

Moving accuracy from 0.6 to 0.75

Rate of fire near modifier from 0.7777 to 1

Rate of fire far modifier from 1 to 0.7777

USF Weapon Crews M3

Range distance near from 8 to 10

Range distance mid from 14 to 18

Paratrooper Thompson

Range distance near from 8 to 10

Range distance mid from 16 to 19

Grenadiers

Intended to excel at long range

Highest long range damage output for its tier

Abilities load out geared towards long range combat

Vulnerable at short range to all other unit types

Versus Conscripts

Advantaged at long ranges

Even at mid ranges

Disadvantaged at short ranges

Versus Riflemen

Slightly disadvantaged at long ranges

Disadvantaged at mid ranges

Disadvantaged at short ranges

Changes

Near accuracy from 0.7 to 0.65

Mid accuracy from 0.65 to 0.575

Far accuracy from 0.6 to 0.52

Far aim time multiplier from 4 to 3.25

Near cooldown modifier from 0.125 to 0.25

Added a received accuracy modifier of 0.91

Volksgrenadiers

Performs moderately well at long range combat

Extremely vulnerable at short range, moderately vulnerable at mid-range

Versus Riflemen

Disadvantaged at long ranges

Extremely disadvantaged at short-mid ranges

Versus Conscripts

Advantaged at long ranges

Disadvantaged at mid ranges

Disadvantaged at short ranges

Changes

Mid accuracy from 0.6 to 0.62

Far accuracy from 0.55 to 0.59

Moving cooldown from 1 to 1.5

Sturmpioneers

Excels at short-mid ranges

Vulnerable at long ranges

Versus Riflemen

Disadvantaged at long ranges

Advantaged at mid ranges

Advantaged at short ranges

Versus Conscripts

Disadvantaged at long ranges

Advantaged at mid ranges

Advantaged at short ranges

Changes

Added a received accuracy modifier of 0.87

Near range distance from 8 to 3

Mid range distance from 16 to 15

Far mid distance from 35 to 28

Conscripts

Performs modestly at mid to short range, does not excel at any range

Ability load out geared towards short-mid

Vulnerable to long range units

Versus Grenadiers

Disadvantaged at long ranges

Even at mid ranges

Advantaged at short ranges

Versus Sturmpioneers

Advantaged at long ranges

Disadvantaged at mid ranges

Disadvantaged at short ranges

Changes

Near accuracy from 0.45 to 0.47

Mid accuracy from 0.39 to 0.43

Far accuracy from 0.3 to 0.29

Near range distance from 4 to 0

Mid range distance from 20 to 25

Added a received accuracy modifier of 1.087

Riflemen

Performs moderately at all ranges; excels against other rifled units at short-mid

Vulnerable at long ranges

Versus Grenadiers

Slightly advantaged at long ranges

Advantaged at mid ranges

Advantaged at short ranges

Versus Sturmpioneers

Advantaged at long ranges

Disadvantaged at mid ranges

Disadvantaged at short ranges

Changes

Near accuracy from 0.6 to 0.62

Mid accuracy from 0.55 to 0.58

Far accuracy from 0.5 to 0.45

Near range distance from 6 to 3

Far cooldown modifier from 1 to 1.25

Added a received accuracy modifier of 0.97

Build time from 25 to 28 seconds

Bug and Gameplay Fixes

T34

Reload time set to correct value, was unintentionally lowered when the KV-1 was modified

Reload time from 5.2-5.8 to 6.2-6.8 seconds

53K 45mm AT Gun

Target size from 1 to 16; this increases the likelihood of the gun itself being hit when decrewed and manually targeted.

Barrage Abilities

Fixed an issue which caused the main gun to become disabled if the unit’s barrage ability was interrupted before completion. e.g. M8A1 HMC.

Resolved an issue which allowed players to subvert the recharge timer if they canceled the barrage at a certain point in its animation. e.g. B4 Howitzer Barrage

Ability Refunds

Interrupted or canceled abilities now properly refund the cost and reset the cooldown timer of the ability.

Salvage

Salvage can no longer be activated on a team weapon which is in the process of being recrewed

Recrewing

Reduced sim side delay when a squad is attempting to recrew a weapon; recrewing should occur 0.25 seconds quicker as a result.

Major ‘Establish a Treat Point’ Ability

No longer allows the major to recrew an abandoned vehicle

HMG

Resolved a number of gameplay issues related to heavy machine guns. This includes issues with selection, positioning, and retreating.

Unit Speech

Resolves a number of issues related to unit speech or missing speech

Pathfinding

Vehicles will now be better at driving through narrow passages, they will be less likely to get stuck

Vehicles will now be less likely to enter a tight spot, thereby reducing the occurrences of on-the-spot pivots

Improved the way three point turns are executed

Improved the way vehicles respond to facing orders

[USSRxLANz]

Реально ахтунг, вернее, ахтунги в баланс-тиме реликов. Потестить, разочароваться и забить.

[Mr Carloff]

пипец

[Tit Corvus]

Вангую онлайн 100 - 0. Прощай доктрина с доджами :(

[DarthM]

Я правда не совсем понял, что они типа подкрутили у пехоты.

В остальном встречайте бронепонтеру.

Вспоминаем историю как оно было 2 понтеры и тышша танков

Попозже пороюсь на КоХ-статс. Уверен что были и скрытые изменения

Ага. Например:

Accuracy F/M/N

Partisan LMG42 0.42/0.48/0.6 --> 0.37/0.43/0.6

Partisan DP28 0.37/0.5/0.52 --> 0.32/0.45/0.52

:D

Изменено 9 сентября, 2014 пользователем DarthM

[Mr Carloff]

This balance patch might require a balance patch.

[DarthM]

Как вообще впечатления?

[USSRxLANz]

Спам немецкой пехоты еще сложнее контрить, фольки субъективно стали сильнее, райфлы слабее, Пантера вроде еще ломается сушками, гвардейцы не нужны от слова совсем. В общем, пока мы с тим-мейтом решили бойкотировать этот баланс-патч.

[DarthM]

Мне одному кажется что скрипты падают еще быстрее чем раньше?

[apocalipsis]

Мне одному кажется что скрипты падают еще быстрее чем раньше?

Вернулись в 41 год.

Надо будет попробовать использовать мортиры.

Вопрос : от обычных советских мортир есть толк? Или только 120 миллимитровые?

[Mr Carloff]

Как вообще впечатления?

Положительные. Вчера сыграл 2 игры с друзьями из интернета, проблем не заметил. Хотя в обоих играх столкнулся со спамом мг42 переходящим в спам гренадеров. Такой выбегаешь на бенз, а там уже 2 мг друг друга прикрывают. Через пару минут их уже 6 мг :) потом паки, минометы, ганомаг. Заминировал проходы, затечился в Су85 и "Катюшу", подстветил снайпером и охренел - сидят кучно 8 мг, 4 пака, 2 миномета, 4 отряда гренок и ганомаг со скаут каром. Дал залп из "Катюши" - чуваки ливнули :)

Еще видел как союзник построил отрядов 6-7 конскриптов с ПТРС :) Настоящая ОРДА.

[Mr Carloff]

Вопрос : от обычных советских мортир есть толк? Или только 120 миллимитровые?

И те и те вполне. Первые главное не слить на контр минометной борьбе.

[Mr Carloff]

USF:

M20 faster build

M4A3 faster build

Jackson faster build

WC51 large nerf

Stuart large nerf

M8A1 large nerf

m9 bazooka large nerf

Riflemen medium nerf

Pack howitzer medium nerf

155mm howitzer medium nerf

EZ8 minor nerf

Thompson users: medium buff

P47 medium buff

Soviet:

Guards large nerf

T34/76 large nerf

Conscripts minor nerf (nevermind, it really was a 9% increase in received accuracy. God damn it Relic)

Ostheer:

Grenadier minor buff

PG medium buff

Osttruppen medium buff

Panzershrek minor nerf

Stuka strafe medium nerf

Panther medium buff

Teller/Riegel minor nerf

Brumm medium buff

OKW:

Panzershrek minor nerf

Volks minor buff

Sturms minor buff

Sturmtiger large buff

MG34 minor nerf

105mm Howitzer large nerf

Panther minor buff

Flak HT medium buff

Kubel large buff

Jaeger completely changed behavior

[Mr Carloff]

Ниндзя...

I'm just gonna leave this here. I'm sure vetlolcake will have an orgasm to rival an atomic bomb when he sees that first line, but people should know what sneaky things Relic has been doing. I fully expect them to hotfix the first line, but the question is how many days later.

82mm/120mm/Maxim/DSHK squads no longer have a 25% received accuracy penalty.

Paratrooper vet2 accuracy bonus from 1.25 to 1.4

Irregular/Partisan LMG nerfed ~12% (same as the other LMGs, except these didn't get nerfed at short range)

Raketenwerfer exp requirements for vet doubled

Button rate of fire reduction only 25% (patch notes say 56%)

Volk Schrek base accuracy nerfed to 0.025/0.0375/0.05 (from 0.03/0.0425/0.055), PG schrek accuracy was this already.

Vehicle stun effect duration from 5 seconds to 3 seconds (affects: sturmtiger, ostheer puma, pak40/43 stun rounds, elefant, stug e/g, stuart)

Terror officer aura further reduced slightly from 0.87 reload to 0.91 reload for weapon teams.

Ostheer Command Tank aura now applies to all allied units, previously only your own

Captain On Me ability buff changed from 1.2 damage to 1.2 accuracy

OKW PIV exp required increased by 10%

Recon Commander Paratroopers: Healing added to vet2 (like normal paras)

Captain & Lieutenant Thompson nerfed down to Paratrooper Thompson stats (so 50% lower damage though with the new improved range)

Soviet Combat Engineer build time increased from 4.25 to 4.5, manpower cost from 42.5 to 45 (so squad cost 170 --> 180, reinforce cost 21-->22)

[Mr Carloff]

Well actually maxims were nerfed in this patch. They removed accuracy penalty from them.

You misunderstand. This is a huge buff to maxims. The modifier increased the amount of damage they took in from small arms.

Aah okay, well. Then, prepare your anus! :D

[Iron Duke]

Думаю купить игру

Сторик интересный?

Стоит брать с дополнениями?

[Mr Carloff]

Только ради мультиплеера.

[DarthM]

Думаю купить игру

Сторик интересный?

Стоит брать с дополнениями?

Сторик полный враг у ворот, УС2, штрафбат и прочие

Можно всякие дополнения брать theaters of war, там кооп и сингл миссии

[DarthM]

Кстати, всегда следите, чтобы вас не отрезали вот так:

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[apocalipsis]

А где обещанные штрафники на medium-large range? Или их сейчас вместо новобранцев использовать?)

Попробовал миномёты. Вроде весело, но в одной из игр случайно обстрелял союзный ИС-2 на льду и потопил =|

[DarthM]

А где обещанные штрафники на medium-large range? Или их сейчас вместо новобранцев использовать?)

Пока штрафников не трогали.

Но конскриптов только если командиру с ПТРС, а так спамьте максимы.

Попробовал миномёты. Вроде весело, но в одной из игр случайно обстрелял союзный ИС-2 на льду и потопил =|

Нормально, я постоянно захожу под свой миномет.

Вчера вообще долбанул по союзнической 34ке из Б-4.. так как она к штурмтигру притерлась

[Iron Duke]

поставил, скатал с ботами за фрицев и за советов, клевая игра ))

несокрушимость элефанта порадовала, хотя стоит ого как, но свое отбивает по крайней мере против ботов =)

у советов тоже все круто, ощущение что дизбалансные в начале игры все дешево и задавить не стоит проблем опять же против мобов

[DarthM]

против ботов несокрушимо практически все. Так что пробуй мультиплеер

[Iron Duke]

против ботов несокрушимо практически все. Так что пробуй мультиплеер

да надо бы ))

[apocalipsis]

Пока штрафников не трогали.

Но конскриптов только если командиру с ПТРС, а так спамьте максимы.

Я криворук и мне не хватает микроконтроля, чтобы нормально разруливать спам максимов.

Нормально, я постоянно захожу под свой миномет.

Вчера вообще долбанул по союзнической 34ке из Б-4.. так как она к штурмтигру притерлась

Б-4? Это та 203мм бандурина? Я не знал что кто-то вообще строит эти здоровые пушки. Я пробовал - совсем не понравилось.

Ну или дзена не постиг.