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Вариант. British Armoured Tank Company, 4th Armoured Brigade, from Overlord, page 90 Compulsory Armoured Squadron HQ (p.91) - CinC Sherman II or V, 2iC Sherman II or V (160 pts) - 2x Equip Sherman with .50cal AA MG (10 pts) Compulsory Armoured Platoon (p.92) - Command Sherman II or V, Sherman II or V, Firefly VC (275 pts) - 3x Equip with .50cal AA MG (15 pts) Compulsory Armoured Platoon (p.92) - Command Sherman II or V, Sherman II or V, Firefly VC (275 pts) - 3x Equip with .50cal AA MG (15 pts) Firefly Platoon (p.92) - Command Firefly VC, 3x Firefly VC (450 pts) Motor Platoon (p.102) - Command MG, PIAT, Light Mortar, 3x MG, 4x M5 half-track (140 pts) Field Battery (SP), Royal Artillery (p.121) - 2x Command Rifle, Staff, Sherman OP, 4x Sexton (250 pts) Corps Field Battery, Royal Artillery (p.159) - 2x Command Rifle, Staff, Observer Rifle, OP Carrier, 4x OQF 25 pdr gun (140 pts) Air Support (p.161) - Limited Typhoon (170 pts) 1900 Points, 6 Platoons
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Фаерфлаев я добавлю, стюардов уберу, хочу взять для антитанка М10 17pdr, но арми билдер пишет N\A. Почему, подскажите плз.
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British Armoured Tank Company, 4th Armoured Brigade, from Overlord, page 90 Compulsory Armoured Squadron HQ (p.91) - CinC Sherman II or V, 2iC Sherman II or V (160 pts) Compulsory Armoured Platoon (p.92) - Command Sherman II or V, 2x Sherman II or V, Firefly VC (355 pts) - 2x Equip with .50cal AA MG (10 pts) Compulsory Armoured Platoon (p.92) - Command Sherman II or V, 2x Sherman II or V, Firefly VC (355 pts) Armoured Platoon (p.92) - Command Sherman II, 2x Sherman II (240 pts) Armoured Regimental Recce Platoon (p.93) - Command Stuart V, 3x Stuart V (195 pts) Motor Platoon (p.102) - Command MG, PIAT, Light Mortar, 2x MG, 3x M5 half-track (115 pts) Field Battery (SP), Royal Artillery (p.121) - 2x Command Rifle, Staff, Sherman OP, 4x Sexton (250 pts) Air Support (p.161) - Limited Typhoon (170 pts) 1850 Points, 6 Platoons Присматриваюсь к ростеру на шерманах на лейт, шерманы и тайфун уже есть, надо определиться с артилерией. Вроде взял все нужное: антитанк с АТ14, шаблон от самолета, мортиры для дыма, стюрты против пехоты и М5, артиллерия. Прошу критику и советов по улучшению.
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"Вариант с уклоном в шерманы - хорошо, но чудес от него не жди, а учись играть." Спасибо! Будем учиться превозмогать :D . Главное, что эти танчики и машинки на столе будут глаз радовать, пехота не мое.
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А насколько будет играбелен такой вариант? Soviet Guards Heavy Tank (Guards Support) Tank Company, from Eastern Front, page 186 Compulsory Guards Heavy Tank Regiment HQ (p.187) - CinC KV-1s (165 pts) Compulsory Gvardeyskiy Tyazhelyy Tankovy Company (p.187) - Command KV-1s, 4x KV-1s (825 pts) Compulsory Gvardeyskiy Tyazhelyy Tankovy Company (p.187) - Command KV-1s, 3x KV-1s (660 pts) 1650 Points, 2 Platoons
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Вариант с уклоном на Шерманы. Предыдущий с М10 мне тоже симпатизирует, его тоже хочу попробывать. US Tank Tank Company, from North Africa, page 236 Compulsory Tank Company HQ (p.237) - CinC M4 or M4A1 Sherman, 2iC M4 or M4A1 Sherman (230 pts) Compulsory Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M4 or M4A1 Sherman, 3x M4 or M4A1 Sherman (460 pts) Compulsory Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M4 or M4A1 Sherman, 2x M4 or M4A1 Sherman (345 pts) Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M3 or M3A1 Stuart equipped with stabiliser, 4x M3 or M3A1 Stuart equipped with stabiliser (285 pts) Armoured Mortar Platoon (p.240) - Command Carbine, M2 half-track equipped with .50 cal AA MG, 3x M4 81mm MMC (80 pts) - 3x Equip M4 81mm MMC with .50 cal AA MG (15 pts) Armoured Rifle Platoon (p.239) - Command Rifle, 5x Rifle, M3 37mm gun, 2x M1919 LMG, M2 60mm mortar, 2x M3 half-track equipped with .50 cal AA MG, 3x M3 half-track equipped with AA MG (175 pts) - Replace M3 37mm gun with Bazooka (0 pts) - 3x Bazooka (60 pts) 1650 Points, 5 Platoons
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Подредактировал ростер, от шерманов отказываться не хочу, нравится мне этот танк и коробка лежит ;) М10 тоже люблю, добавил две штуки, хочу 4, но не лезут. US TankTank Company, from North Africa, page 236 Compulsory Tank Company HQ (p.237) - CinC M4 or M4A1 Sherman, 2iC M4 or M4A1 Sherman (230 pts) Compulsory Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M4 or M4A1 Sherman, 2x M4 or M4A1 Sherman (345 pts) Compulsory Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M3 or M3A1 Stuart, 4x M3 or M3A1 Stuart (260 pts) Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M3 or M3A1 Stuart, 4x M3 or M3A1 Stuart (260 pts) Armoured Mortar Platoon (p.240) - Command Carbine, M2 half-track equipped with .50 cal AA MG, 3x M4 81mm MMC (80 pts) - Equip M4 81mm MMC with .50 cal AA MG (5 pts) Self-propelled Anti-tank Platoon (p.256) - Command Carbine, Carbine, Jeep equipped with .50 cal AA MG, Jeep, 2x M10 3in GMC (230 pts) Armoured Rifle Platoon (p.239) - Command Rifle, 5x Rifle, M3 37mm gun, 2x M1919 LMG, M2 60mm mortar, 2x M3 half-track equipped with .50 cal AA MG, 3x M3 half-track equipped with AA MG (175 pts) - Replace M3 37mm gun with Bazooka (0 pts) - 3x Bazooka (60 pts) 1645 Points, 6 Platoons
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US Tank Tank Company, from North Africa, page 236 Compulsory Tank Company HQ (p.237) - CinC M4 or M4A1 Sherman, 2iC M4 or M4A1 Sherman (230 pts) Compulsory Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M4 or M4A1 Sherman, 2x M4 or M4A1 Sherman (345 pts) Compulsory Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M4 or M4A1 Sherman, 2x M4 or M4A1 Sherman (345 pts) Tank Platoon (p.237) - Command M3 or M3A1 Stuart equipped with stabiliser, 4x M3 or M3A1 Stuart equipped with stabiliser (285 pts) Armoured Mortar Platoon (p.240) - Command Carbine, M2 half-track equipped with .50 cal AA MG, 3x M4 81mm MMC (80 pts) - 3x Equip M4 81mm MMC with .50 cal AA MG (15 pts) Recon Platoon (Tank) (p.242) - Command Carbine, M2 half-track equipped with .50 cal AA MG, 2x Rifle, 2x Jeep (60 pts) - Bazooka (20 pts) - 2x Equip unarmed Jeep with AA MG (10 pts) Armoured Rifle Platoon (p.239) - Command Rifle, 5x Rifle, M3 37mm gun, 2x M1919 LMG, M2 60mm mortar, 2x M3 half-track equipped with .50 cal AA MG, 3x M3 half-track equipped with AA MG (175 pts) - Replace M3 37mm gun with Bazooka (0 pts) - 4x Bazooka (only if 5x Rifle) (80 pts) 1645 Points, 6 Platoons Хочу собрать ростер на шерманах на мид, совместными усилиями получился такой вариант. Прошу подсказать слабые стороны ростера и советов по допиливанию.
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В Лобне где именно они есть? Мне от Зеленограда недалеко ;)
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Мне как раз т-60 и кв-1э нужны, когда ждать неизвестно?
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Обновил ростер: German Grenadier Infantry Company, from Eastern Front, page 60 Compulsory Grenadier Company HQ (p.61) - CinC SMG, 2iC SMG (45 pts) - Replace Command SMG with Command Panzerknacker SMG (5 pts) Compulsory Grenadier Platoon (p.61) - Command Rifle/MG, 8x Rifle/MG (200 pts) - Replace Command Rifle/MG with Command Panzerknacker SMG (5 pts) Compulsory Grenadier Platoon (p.61) - Command Rifle/MG, 8x Rifle/MG (200 pts) - Replace Command Rifle/MG with Command Panzerknacker SMG (5 pts) Grenadier Mortar Platoon (p.62) - Command SMG, 2x Observer Rifle, 4x 8cm GW34 mortar (125 pts) Grenadier Anti-tank Gun Platoon (p.65) - Command SMG, 3x 5cm PaK38 gun (120 pts) Mittlere Panzer Platoon (p.34) - Command Panzer III G/H/J (early), 4x Panzer III G/H/J (early) (450 pts) Anti-tank Gun Platoon (p.87) - Command SMG, 3x 7.5cm PaK40 gun (220 pts) Pionier Platoon (p.67) - Command Pioneer Rifle, 6x Pioneer Rifle (155 pts) Rocket Launcher Battery (p.90) - Command SMG, Observer Rifle, Kubelwagen, 3x 15cm NW41 rocket launcher (115 pts) 1645 Points, 8 Platoons
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Спасибо, учту такой вариант. Но у меня есть модель штуки, а такую кучу ганомагов еще надо купить. Собрал пеших гренадеров (у меня теперь две немецкие половинки стартера опен фаер). Прошу совета по утряске\усушке :D German Grenadier Infantry Company, from Eastern Front, page 60 Compulsory Grenadier Company HQ (p.61) - CinC SMG, 2iC SMG (45 pts) Compulsory Grenadier Platoon (p.61) - Command Rifle/MG, 6x Rifle/MG (155 pts) Compulsory Grenadier Platoon (p.61) - Command Rifle/MG, 6x Rifle/MG (155 pts) Grenadier Platoon (p.61) - Command Rifle/MG, 4x Rifle/MG (110 pts) Grenadier Scout Platoon (p.64) - Command Rifle, 4x Rifle (110 pts) Mittlere Panzer Platoon (p.34) - Command Panzer III G/H/J (early), 4x Panzer III G/H/J (early) (450 pts) Anti-tank Gun Platoon (p.87) - Command SMG, 4x 7.5cm PaK40 gun (290 pts) Pionier Platoon (p.67) - Command Pioneer Rifle, 9x Pioneer Rifle (220 pts) Rocket Launcher Battery (p.90) - Command SMG, Observer Rifle, Kubelwagen, 3x 15cm NW41 rocket launcher (115 pts) 1650 Points, 8 Platoons
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Шесть платунов, я уже знаю, гораздо лучше, по миссиям отправлять половину в резерв :D Как я понимаю в резерв надо отправлять легкие танки с машинками? Тогда, получается следующая, и как мне кажется более сбалансированная расписка: Soviet Mixed Tankovy (Regular) Tank Company, from Eastern Front, page 194 Compulsory Mixed Tankovy Battalion HQ (p.195) - use a tank from a combat company (0 pts) Compulsory Mixed Light Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-60 obr 1942, 7x T-60 obr 1942 (155 pts) Compulsory T-26 Tankovy Company (p.195) - Command T-26S obr 1939, 4x T-26S obr 1939 (125 pts) Compulsory Mixed Medium Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-34 obr 1941 or 1942, 8x T-34 obr 1941 or 1942 (570 pts) Compulsory Mixed Heavy Tank Company (p.197) - Command KV-1e, 4x KV-1e (540 pts) - Replace KV-1e with KV-2 (-10 pts) Armoured Car Company (p.193) - Command BA-10M, 2x BA-10M (120 pts) Guards Rocket Mortar Battalion (p.236) - Command Rifle, Observer Rifle, 3-ton truck, Komissar, 4x BM-13 Katyusha (150 pts) 1650 Points, 6 Platoons
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Модель "Чайки" я в продаже не нашел, да и визуально мне по душе вот такая расписка: Soviet Mixed Tankovy (Regular) Tank Company, from Eastern Front, page 194 Compulsory Mixed Tankovy Battalion HQ (p.195) - use a tank from a combat company (0 pts) Compulsory Mixed Light Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command M3l (M3A1 Stuart), 7x M3l (M3A1 Stuart) (265 pts) Compulsory Mixed Medium Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-34 obr 1941 or 1942, 9x T-34 obr 1941 or 1942 (605 pts) Compulsory Mixed Heavy Tank Company (p.197) - Command KV-1e, 4x KV-1e (540 pts) - 3x Replace KV-1e with KV-2 (-30 pts) Armoured Car Company (p.193) - Command BA-10M, 2x BA-10M (120 pts) Guards Rocket Mortar Battalion (p.236) - Command Rifle, Observer Rifle, 3-ton truck, Komissar, 4x BM-13 Katyusha (150 pts) 1650 Points, 5 Platoons Стоит ли менять Стюардов на Т-26 или Т-60? Стюарды довольно дорогие, будет ли от них больше пользы? Пока размещал ростер мне уже ответили на этот вопрос :D Тогда вот вариант на Т-60: Soviet Mixed Tankovy (Regular) Tank Company, from Eastern Front, page 194 Compulsory Mixed Tankovy Battalion HQ (p.195) - use a tank from a combat company (0 pts) Compulsory Mixed Light Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-60 obr 1942, 7x T-60 obr 1942 (155 pts) Compulsory Mixed Medium Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-34 obr 1941 or 1942, 9x T-34 obr 1941 or 1942 (605 pts) Compulsory Mixed Heavy Tank Company (p.197) - Command KV-1e, 5x KV-1e (620 pts) Armoured Car Company (p.193) - Command BA-10M, 2x BA-10M (120 pts) Guards Rocket Mortar Battalion (p.236) - Command Rifle, Observer Rifle, 3-ton truck, Komissar, 4x BM-13 Katyusha (150 pts) 1650 Points, 5 Platoons
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У меня возник вопрос, есть ли принципиальная разница кого взять в качестве легких танков: Стюарты, Т-60, Т-70, Матильды или Т-26?
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Комрады поделитесь секретами, как заклепки, экраны сделать.
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Ну раз такая песня, с самолетиком придется расстаться: Вариант 1. Compulsory Mixed Tankovy Battalion HQ (p.195) - use a tank from a combat company (0 pts) Compulsory Mixed Light Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-70 obr 1942, 4x T-70 obr 1942 (160 pts) Compulsory Mixed Medium Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-34 obr 1941 or 1942, 8x T-34 obr 1941 or 1942 (570 pts) Compulsory Mixed Heavy Tank Company (p.197) - Command KV-1e, 6x KV-1e (690 pts) - 2x Replace KV-1e with KV-2 (-20 pts) Armoured Car Company (p.193) - Command BA-10M, 2x BA-10M (120 pts) Sapper Company (p.234) - Command Pioneer Rifle, 5x Pioneer Rifle (95 pts) - Komissar (5 pts) - Supply truck (25 pts) 1645 Points, 5 Platoons Вариант 2. Tank Company, from Eastern Front, page 194 Compulsory Mixed Tankovy Battalion HQ (p.195) - use a tank from a combat company (0 pts) Compulsory Mixed Light Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-60 obr 1942, 7x T-60 obr 1942 (155 pts) Compulsory Mixed Medium Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-34 obr 1941 or 1942, 8x T-34 obr 1941 or 1942 (570 pts) Compulsory Mixed Heavy Tank Company (p.197) - Command KV-1e, 6x KV-1e (690 pts) - Replace KV-1e with KV-2 (-10 pts) Armoured Car Company (p.193) - Command BA-10M, 2x BA-10M (120 pts) Sapper Company (p.234) - Command Pioneer Rifle, 5x Pioneer Rifle (95 pts) - Komissar (5 pts) - Supply truck (25 pts) 1650 Points, 5 Platoons
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Мысли на тему, как использовать гренадеров из стартера на мидл вар+модели в наличии. Получилось как то так: German Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier Mechanised Company, from Eastern Front, page 40 Compulsory Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier Company HQ (p.41) - CinC SMG, 2iC SMG, 2x Sd Kfz 251/1C half-track (70 pts) Compulsory Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier Platoon (p.41) - Command MG, 6x MG, 4x Sd Kfz 251/1C half-track (230 pts) Compulsory Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier Platoon (p.41) - Command MG, 6x MG, 4x Sd Kfz 251/1C half-track (230 pts) Gepanzerte Anti-tank Gun Platoon (p.44) - Command SMG, 3x 7.5cm PaK40 gun (220 pts) Gepanzerte Pioneer Platoon (p.44) - Command Pioneer MG, Sd Kfz 251/1C half-track, 4x Pioneer Rifle/MG, 2x Sd Kfz 251/7C (Pioneer) half-track (200 pts) Mittlere Panzer Platoon (p.34) - Command Panzer III G/H/J (early), 4x Panzer III G/H/J (early) (450 pts) Rocket Launcher Battery (p.90) - Command SMG, Observer Rifle, Kubelwagen, 3x 15cm NW41 rocket launcher (115 pts) Air Support (p.84) - Limited Ju 87D Stuka (135 pts) 1650 Points, 6 Platoons
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Я бы тоже не стал цепляться к таким мелочам, ни у кого сомнений не возникнет, что это КВ-1. Но это дело индивидиальное, кого-то эти мелочи будут напрягать, поэтому надо уточнять предварительно позициию оппонента, по этому вопросу, чтобы всем было комфортно.
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Наверно, как-то так: Tank Company, from Eastern Front, page 194 Compulsory Mixed Tankovy Battalion HQ (p.195) - use a tank from a combat company (0 pts) Compulsory Mixed Medium Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-34 obr 1941 or 1942, 8x T-34 obr 1941 or 1942 (570 pts) Compulsory Mixed Heavy Tank Company (p.197) - Command KV-1e, 6x KV-1e (690 pts) Armoured Car Company (p.193) - Command BA-10M, 2x BA-10M (120 pts) Sapper Company (p.234) - Command Pioneer Rifle, 5x Pioneer Rifle (95 pts) - Komissar (5 pts) - Supply truck (25 pts) Air Support (p.231) - Sporadic Il-2 Shturmovik (145 pts) 1650 Points, 4 Platoons
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Извечная проблема визивига <_< А сильно ли они различаются визуально? Почитал в интернете, но так и ничего не понял.
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Вообщем, получилось что-то подобное, ИЛ-2 , правда, жалко менять на "Чайку", от нее мне кажется ни какой пользы, коров только пугать :D Правда опыт боев у меня нулевой... Soviet Mixed Tankovy (Regular) Вариант.1 Tank Company, from Eastern Front, page 194 Compulsory Mixed Tankovy Battalion HQ (p.195) - use a tank from a combat company (0 pts) Compulsory Mixed Medium Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-34 obr 1941 or 1942, 9x T-34 obr 1941 or 1942 (605 pts) Compulsory Mixed Heavy Tank Company (p.197) - Command KV-1e, 6x KV-1e (690 pts) - Replace KV-1e with KV-2 (-10 pts) Tankovy Anti-tank Company (p.192) - Command Rifle, 4x 76mm ZIS-3 anti-tank gun (130 pts) - Komissar (5 pts) - 4x 3-ton truck (5 pts) Armoured Car Company (p.193) - Command BA-10M, 2x BA-10M (120 pts) Air Support (p.231) - Sporadic I-153 (90 pts) 1635 Points, 4 Platoons Вариант 2. Compulsory Mixed Tankovy Battalion HQ (p.195) - use a tank from a combat company (0 pts) Compulsory Mixed Medium Tankovy Company (p.196) - Command T-34 obr 1941 or 1942, 8x T-34 obr 1941 or 1942 (570 pts) Compulsory Mixed Heavy Tank Company (p.197) - Command KV-1e, 6x KV-1e (690 pts) - 2x Replace KV-1e with KV-2 (-20 pts) Tankovy Anti-tank Company (p.192) - Command Rifle, 4x 76mm ZIS-3 anti-tank gun (130 pts) - Komissar (5 pts) - 4x 3-ton truck (5 pts) Armoured Car Company (p.193) - Command BA-10M, 2x BA-10M (120 pts) Air Support (p.231) - Sporadic Il-2 Shturmovik (145 pts) 1645 Points, 4 Platoons