Кодекс: Серые Рыцари

[Captain Beefheart]

блин, по прошлым слухам штурмачи еще были и брались в трупсу при наличии инква.

и когда уже появится цкена и профиль обычного серого :rolleyes:

[Листопадов]

А вот "одиночный не-спэйс-марин-юнит"?

Кто это может быть? Если инквизиторы и ассасины уже перечислены.

[Mitrius]

Штурмовики? ИГшники СПО? Кто еще может быть?

Изменено 12 ноября, 2010 пользователем Mitrius

[Mirta]

Арбитры?

[John Doe]

А то я тут в Вармашине себе модельки присмотрел подходящие для прокси термиков - поиграю , пока союз ВХ с ними не прикрыли :)

Небось кхадорских пикинеров? ;) Похожи, да.

[OLEG71]

Небось кхадорских пикинеров? Похожи, да.

Кадор -да, но не пикинеры - оружие не подходит. А вот самовары - точь в точь, трое Мановаров станут серыми терми с немезидами плюс один с хаммером, в свиту уже имеющемуся ГрандМастреру :)

[Листопадов]

Штурмовики? ИГшники СПО? Кто еще может быть?

Арбитры?

Нет,я так понял,что речь идёт не о скваде,а об одном человечке.

Сказано же - "a SINGLE additional non-GK unit."

Типа причэра что-то,похоже.

[ANF]

демон хост легио кибернетика или там какой новый анти демон юнит

[Листопадов]

Вот я сам на демонхоста очень и надеюсь.

Хотя говаривали,что радикальскую конторку прикрыли.

Оно и логично,коль уж фокус на Грэй Найтах.

[StenRnD]

Я конечно извиняюсь, но разве фраза "a SINGLE additional non-GK unit." не переводится как "ОДИН дополнительный отряд не-ГК"? O_o :?

[John Doe]

Вот я сам на демонхоста очень и надеюсь.

Хотя говаривали,что радикальскую конторку прикрыли.

Оно и логично,коль уж фокус на Грэй Найтах.

И будет у него спецправило, что вся армия ГК обязана в него стрелять и чарджить. Зато пока он на столе, отряды противника не смогут двигаться, завороженные зрелищем такого маразма.

Скорее всего, это будет опять какая-нибудь НЁХ, которой не было раньше ни во флаффе, ни в модельном ряде. Примеров в последних кодексах, можно сказать, тысячи их.

[Morpeh]

Нет,я так понял,что речь идёт не о скваде,а об одном человечке.

Сказано же - "a SINGLE additional non-GK unit."

Типа причэра что-то,похоже.

Не верно.

Сингл тут не играет роли. Речь о единственном ЮНИТЕ. Это может быть и сквад, и отдельная модель. Скорее первое.

[Uchenikkk]

А есть фотки новых моделей-то?

[Листопадов]

"Single" можно так же перевести как "одиночный".

[Ditrih]

В данном случае вряд ли.

[Aierg]

граждане, уже выкладывали?

"Раскрывающийся текст"

спер с контактика

[OldWorld]

Что-то не ахти...где шикарность?

[Alfаrius]

Этой миньке года два, не меньше. Она помнится, взяла золото в номинации единичная минька 40к. :rolleyes:

[sanctus metallum]

это конверсия из Брата Артемиса (54мм)

[Gladi]

за хсм мм играют... играли люди нацеленные на победы и шикарность.

Всмысле с "комплексом наполеона"?

[tilindir]

Обширные куски из разговора с Джесом Гудвином.

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showpo...amp;postcount=2

StraightSilver has posted some more from talking with Jes Goodwin.

Yes the problem with the Sisters of Battle has been the cloth robe sleeves on the under side of their arms, their hair and also the script work on their shoulders.

The problem with the robes on their arms is that it can only be sculpted flowing in one direction, which means posing can be a problem.

This isn't such an issue with Sisters armed with Bolt Guns as the pose will be pretty much set, but when you get things like Seraphim or models armed with close combat weapons you would get a very limited number of poses. This is because if you had the arm held up high the robes may stick out in a gravity defying way, which would look very unnatural.

The hair is essentially the same thing. They want the new models to be much more dynamic, which would mean their hair would not be as static as the previous Sisters of Battle miniatures. This poses problems with posing as the hair and robes need to flow in the same direction, which again limits the amount of poses possible (sorry for the over use of the word pose there - couldn't think of another on! ).

The bit I didn't quite get the gist of was the shoulder plates. He said they wanted embossed and rolling scriptwork on the shoulder plates, and the way it was curving around the plates was presenting problems. I'm not sure in all honesty what that meant but it may be similar to the problems mentioned above or it might be the way the model is cast. It might be the fact that you are very limited in undercuts on a tool when producing plastic miniatures ( by tool I mean mold, but plastic molds are known as tools).

He did stress that they really wanted to crack on with Sisters, but that they had been causing them technical difficulties for quite some time.

However he said that the process of creating the Dark Eldar has really pushed the limits of what they can do in plastic, and has taught them a huge amount.

Many of the problems mentioned above (hair, robes etc) were the same for the Dark Eldar, but they learnt how to manage it and would now like to take those lessons back to the Sisters.

Something else that was interesting was that he said the way he has always worked up until now was to alternate between Space Marines and something else.

For example Space Marines, Tyranids, Space Marines, Eldar, Space Marines, Dark Eldar etc.

However he said quite explicitly that he wouldn't be working on Space Marines after Dark Eldar. This was because he feels he has handed them on to other sculptors now and wanted to do something else, but of course it depended on what GW wanted him to do next.

He also categorically stated that he wouldn't be working on any Warhammer models from now on, although admittedly he hasn't done so for a long time.

So this is pure speculation on my part (so please don't take it as read as I am just thinking aloud - nothing was confirmed), but if he isn't working on Fantasy next then he will be working on something 40K.

It won't be Marines and Tyranids have been updated recently.

Speculatively that only really leaves CraftWorld Eldar or Sisters next.

He did say that working on Dark Eldar had reignited his enthusiasm for Craft World Eldar, and that he wanted to revisit the range so he could implement a lot of the lessons they learned with Dark Eldar and we know that he sculpted the Craft World Eldar Jetbikes and the Dark Eldar Reaver Jetbikes simultaneously so Eldar is a possibility.

But if his normal working process is Power Armour, Xenos, Power Armour, something else etc and he has just released Dark Eldar then it follows that Sisters ought to be next.

Now for the bad news. He told me that after working on Dark Eldar solidly for more than 4 years (as well as other projects) he was already exhausted. However there was still more work to do on the Dark Eldar Range and he would be working on them until June 2011 so that 90% of the range could be released by then.

He then said that he would be taking a long rest before starting any other projects. I am not sure how long a rest that would be but I would suspect at least a couple of months.

Jes isn't just a sculptor, he is also the head of the GW plastics department, and is involved in the training of staff and development of new tecnology.

It may be that when he takes a break from sculpting he concentrates on this area of his job.

Either way this means that he wouldn't be starting a new project until at the earliest July/August 2011.

It sounds like R and D has already begun on the Sisters, and if they have learnt a great deal during the Dark Eldar development and can put this into practice then they shouldn't take too long, but I would guess that we wouldn't see them at the very earliest until Quarter 1 2012, but more realistically later that year.

Again this is just my speculation based on the conversation I had with Jes.

They are most definitely working on Sisters, but it may be a while before we see them.

Well he told me that he would be working solidly on Dark Eldar until June 2011.

They have 4 plastic kits to release for Dark Eldar next year, as well as metal figures and then possibly some of the character models.

Obviously he won't be doing all the work on his own as Juan Diaz is also doing some of the models.

He did say that they are on the final push but still have a lot of things to do.

One of which was the Haemonculi passengers for the raider. The Wyches will be included with the Venom and can be used on the raider, but they didn't know yet how to do the Haemonculi. It wasn't so much a problem of creating them, just what to release them with. My guess would be with the Talos.

However he was confident he could take a break from June 2011 onwards as this is when they plan to stop work on the Dark Eldar.

The Sisters of battle have been in "design hell" since before the dark Eldar, so at least 4-5 years.

They have started the initial planning but it was the aspects mentioned earlier that had caused them to be put on hold.

The implication was that these problems may have now been resolved with the dark Eldar Wyches, as a lot of these problems were exactly the same for them.

However with next year's 40K schedule already full up and with Jes wanting a break from a new range I would say thay are at least a year off.

If rumours are correct we have Grey Knights Quarter 1, Flyers expansion Quarter 2 and Tau/Necrons (my money is on Tau as I know they have already completed many of the new plastics and that Necrons are getting the Dark Eldar treatment. In other words a rewrite which will take a while) in Quarter 4.

This doesn't rule out another 40K release next year, I just got the impression that it wouldn't be Sisters.

Вкратце - проблемы с модельками сестер те же, что и с дэшными (необходима динамика), но если у них оставлять робы\рукава, то становится катастрофически мало доступных поз для сборки и конверсий.

Но они как-то с этим справятся. Наверное =)

Джес после выпуска 3ей волны ДЭ отправляется в отпуск => сестры откладываются минимум до лета 2012 года. А там, глядишь, и 6 редакция (которая, по хорошей традиции, убьет половину спецправил армии).

[Mitrius]

А хотя бы пдф с таким подходом к минькам они сделать не хотят? Или кодекс до релиза? Вон, джаги же пластиковые не сразу появились.

Изменено 23 ноября, 2010 пользователем Mitrius

[OldWorld]

сестры откладываются минимум до лета 2012 года

А если их отложат до декабря 2012, боюсь, их не выпустят никогда...

[Охотник на ведьм]

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Изменено 23 ноября, 2010 пользователем CC 1138

[Dale Cooper]

без перепила и зелёнки у новых бестигоров одна (одна) возможная поза, не считая головы, без перепила и зелёнки у новых демонеток вариации поз лежат в плоскости разворота клешней от условно-призывных до идиотических зойдбергов.

а тут, вишь, динамики захотелось.