Black Templars

[ravenguardian]

Reddite quae sunt Caesaris Caesari et quae sunt Dei Deo

Bersserker

Вы правы, но в случае с ЧХ , у них есть молитвы, что отличает их более всего.

Изменено 14 сентября, 2012 пользователем ravenguardian

[Листопадов]

Концепций армий Космодесанта существенно меньше, чем их кодексов.

Масс_что-то_там - не тянет на концепцию, иначе такую штуку можно было бы проворачивать и с другими армиями.

Касательно Космодесанта всё упирается во внешность и вариативность образа.

Быть или не быть какому-то кодексу Космодесанта определяет по-большей части привлекательность той мишуры, которую можно нашить поверх силовой брони.

Поэтому, мне кажется, Чёрные Храмовники останутся обособленными.

Хотя в списке-утечке очевидно-храмовнические модели и значились вместе с ванилью.

[ANF]

гв наконецц пришло к тому что моряков уже не во что переливать. особенно империал гей прайд. что стало с гк тому пример. давно пора развивать иные армии и главное не имперские расы.

а то просто гражданская война импераши на столах.

либо бек бадаба расширять на все имперский масштаб. ультрамар проотив титана. баалиты против клыка и тп

но в гв остался уорд так что один фейл маячит на горизонте

надеюсь хоть бт унитазо-азише-люб не сольет ибо среди всех иоряков она ед осталась в освещении гримдарка и дарк фьюча

Изменено 14 сентября, 2012 пользователем Anfarius

[Грустный Динозаврик Хаоса]

кмк не отменят

знаете почему ?

таблица союзников

там БТ - отдельная армия !

[Canopus]

кмк не отменят

знаете почему ?

таблица союзников

там БТ - отдельная армия !

А в рулбуке 5 у сестер есть инквизиторы. Не аргумент.

[Грустный Динозаврик Хаоса]

А в рулбуке 5 у сестер есть инквизиторы. Не аргумент.

а нонче РБ какой редакции ?

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via TastyTaste on Blood of Kittens

Please remember that these are rumors

We have some Black Templar Rumors that may be giving them an update (albeit a White Dwarf one) sometime by summer of 2013. Exciting news for the Templar fans out there.

With all the rumors flying around about Dark Angels and the bogus ones concerning Orks, I find it amazing that no one has mentioned anything about one codex that is in need of the most love. Before I talk about that, I want to add to the chorus that Dark Angels are heading our way Jan or Feb.

Now back to why you are reading this in the first place, the Black Templars, well I got some news for you!

And sadly, you’re probably not going to like it.

Earlier this year I was told that Black Templars would be getting the White Dwarf treatment aka like Sisters of Battle. Then earlier this month Robin Cruddace teased everyone a little bit by not confirming or denying they would get folded into the next Space Marine codex.

So after doing a bit of investigating I want to confirm that Black Templars are still on track for the White Dwarf treatment by summer 2013 at the latest. Now I do have one caveat: it could very well mean they are getting an ”update” not a White Dwarf codex, but all I am hearing is a two issue White Dwarf codex to bring them in-line with 6th edition.

More importantly what changes are we are looking at?

While detailed specifics are hard to come by this is what I got so far.

Vows are gone, but are now folded into specific Black Templar Warlord Traits and have changed dramatically. Unique characters including the Emperor’s Champion will get specific ones.

The Emperors Champion is not required taking.

”No Pity, No Remorse, No Fear” & ”Righteous Zeal” are Crusader & Zealot with various conditions. Expect various additional rules to kick in when Black Templars start dying.

”Abhor the Witch” is staying

Neophytes have their own unit lead by an Initiate (flip of Fluff and rules here a bit, but makes sense)

Rumored to be gone.

”They Shall know no Fear” Zealot to fill the gap my guess.

”Tank Hunters”

That is all I have for now, this one is still a bit away so will be interesting to see if anything changes as we get closer

Изменено 21 ноября, 2012 пользователем Forvald

[Aierg]

тухло все как-то. прошлая тема закрылась по сути на этих же слухах.

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тухло все как-то. прошлая тема закрылась по сути на этих же слухах.

ОК, как скажешь кэп. Я рою все иностранные группы по БТ и кое какие форумы. Везде одно и тоже было - новостей нет и ничего не известно, вплоть до объединения с ультрой. Это слух, но слух новый. Протух для тебя - ОК не читай

[Xero]

а что помешало запостить в тему с слухами по БТ? Ну в общем то ничего нового, за исключением необязательности чемпа. Но хоть что-то и то хорошо.

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а что помешало запостить в тему с слухами по БТ?

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This is an excellent brief interview with Robbin Cruddace at France's Games Day which to my understanding just ended the previous weekend. Robbin was gracious enough to answer some questions by one of our readers here, and Commissar-Lord Brusilov wrote up an excellent overview of that conversation. This is definitely worth your time to read, answers some questions about the Black Templar and codex creation, so sit back and enjoy on a hopefully quiet Sunday morning.

via the Faeit 212 inbox from Commissar-Lord Brusilov

Natfka,

I attended the French Games Day last week-end and while I did not learn much about any upcoming releases (everyone is quite tight-lipped about that), I did have a long chat with Robin Cruddace (thanks again to him if he’s reading this for putting up with me).

Since he wouldn’t get into details of what’s coming up, I asked question regarding the development process, GW’s release schedule (in broad terms). Here is what I can remember from it :

- interestingly enough, Robin mentioned that they want to avoid releasing models without a Codex/Army book. He explained that new models drive book sales and vice versa. I forgot to ask him whether he tought new releases without a book may spark new interest in that army, but I don’t think it would have changed his answer ;

- he added that it takes basically a year to write a new codex ;

- he mentioned that models come first, the models designers sit down and come up with new ideas for units and then the rules designers create rules and background for them ;

- Speaking of rules, I asked him about folding the Black Templars into the vanilla Space Marines Codex, he semmed dubious it was doable, arguing that while Imperial Fists and Crimson Fists are very close and are both adhering to the Codex Astartes, Black Templars diverge a lot. He neither confirmed nor denied that the Templars would be folded into the future iteration of the Space Marines Codex ;

- Regarding Codices, he did say that they intend to try and get back to each army every four years (or so). He acknowledged some armies have fallen behind but mentioned that he has written army books or codices for armies that are yet to be released ;

[817th]

Правильно ли я понял последнюю порцию, что есть вероятность того, что миньки будут выпущены до выхода кодекса?

Слухи продолжают поступать и это хорошо.

[Sandzi]

Правильно ли я понял последнюю порцию, что есть вероятность того, что миньки будут выпущены до выхода кодекса?

Наоборот, он говорит, что будут стараться не выпускать миньки до кодекса.

[817th]

Наоборот, он говорит, что будут стараться не выпускать миньки до кодекса.

Ага, спасибо. Потому и спршивал.

[Fester]

Правильно ли я понял последнюю порцию, что есть вероятность того, что миньки будут выпущены до выхода кодекса?

Слухи продолжают поступать и это хорошо.

Ну как? Как могут быть выпущены миньки ДО выхода кодекса или хотя бы апдейта в ВД?

Вот вам именной Маршал Леондрий. А правила на него вы получите в 2015 году. Вы так себе это представляете?

Слухи эти достаточно боянистые, особенно последний. У нас сейчас как и у Тау - малейшее дуновение ветерка случилось, всё... НОВЫЙ СЛУУУХ!!!

Рогал Дорн учил смиренью, братья. :P Потерпите, осталось-то пару тройку лет всего!

[Darmor]

Ну как? Как могут быть выпущены миньки ДО выхода кодекса или хотя бы апдейта в ВД?

Вот вам именной Маршал Леондрий. А правила на него вы получите в 2015 году. Вы так себе это представляете?

Вот вам культисты Хаоса, 2 десятка самых разных. А правила... Эээ, чуть-чуть попозже)

[817th]

Ну как? Как могут быть выпущены миньки ДО выхода кодекса или хотя бы апдейта в ВД?

Вот вам именной Маршал Леондрий. А правила на него вы получите в 2015 году. Вы так себе это представляете?

Слухи эти достаточно боянистые, особенно последний. У нас сейчас как и у Тау - малейшее дуновение ветерка случилось, всё... НОВЫЙ СЛУУУХ!!!

Рогал Дорн учил смиренью, братья. :P Потерпите, осталось-то пару тройку лет всего!

Я как бы немецкий учил в школе. Потому и уточняю, ибо с английской грамматикой в неладах. Что же касается выпуска минек до кодекса, то запросто. Помнится был слух на тему того, что братство меча будет в одной коробке с ветеранами БА (кажется), которые планируются до выхода новых БТшных правил. Вот так и получаются миньки до выхода описалова. Да и вообще, чего только в этом мире не случается?

Darmor вот прям ++

Изменено 22 ноября, 2012 пользователем alone817

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Ну у вас фантазия разыгралась. Написано же - сначала дизайнеры по моделям получают готовые миниатюры/миниатюру и креативят на подразделения потом дизайнера правил придумывают под них бэк и правила, а так же он сказал что сам процесс написания кодекса занимает около года, т.е. когда уже засели за его написания. И опроверглись слухи о слиянии БТ с обычными марами. По сути если сначала делаются миньки а под них кодекс, то возможна утечка изображения wip))

Изменено 22 ноября, 2012 пользователем Forvald

[Слабоумный ниндзя]

По сути если сначала делаются миньки а под них кодекс, то возможна утечка изображения wip))

кто-нибудь хоть раз видел эту утечку?

на моей памяти, пожалуй, только апгрейд пак для слаанеш-терми, который так и не вышел :)

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Утечек подобных мастер-моделей я не помню. Мое мнение таково - толковых идей по БТ у ГВ кот наплакал и в основу кодекса их не положить на данный момент. Как что-нибудь дельное выдадут так слухи посыпятся. Но это ближе к лету 2013 и обещанному WD. По мне так пусть не торопятся, а сделают толково

Изменено 22 ноября, 2012 пользователем Forvald

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http://forums.warforge.ru/index.php?showto...p;#entry2717767

Обновленuе_БЭКА

не?

Изменено 22 ноября, 2012 пользователем Forvald

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Black Templar Rumor Compilation

http://natfka.blogspot.ru/2011/12/black-te...ompilation.html

The year is at its final moments, and what we are looking at are three, possibly four codices for 2012 (I got the plural version right for once... : ) ). There are rumors that place Black Templar or Tau first for Warhammer 40k. Which one at the moment seems to be quite the toss up.

So lets get down to it, and take a look at the current rumors for what might be the first 40k codex for 2012. We know it will not be in January, since we already know that Vampire Counts are getting their army book in January. That pushes us out to the very minimum February, but probably March for 40k. I would imagine we would see a Necron second wave though for February.

Will the Black Templar end up being a White Dwarf release? Who knows. This coming year is supposed to be a big year for Warhammer 40k, so anything is possible at this moment.

Thanks to Pa1adin111 for putting this compilation together.

Please remember that these are rumors and until we something in black and white (nice pun), take these with a grain of salt.

via ghost21

Ghost has said that BT are due out before Tau, presumably the next codex. He also said

due to them sitting done for nearly 8 months?... n honestly sword brethren are nice

I believe therefore that the Black Templars should have their own rumor thread rather than cluttering up the other rumor threads. I invite Ghost, as well as any others with information to share to post it here.

kits for sword brethren n nophytes(sp) as ive said im more of a xenos guy but ill provide what i know, vows are less restrictive

i also saw things for something called knights of the inner circle (or something along those lines).. they were named each came from a successor chapter, n the guy who lead them was a bt... it was interesting but as usual salt applies

via Mirbeau

Not as big! But more bizarre! (unless you play fantasy...). That's most of what I know about it. Speculating from that - big buffing thing with a howdah ?!

A bit more for now - in regards to the 'neophytes' (if they continue with that name), I heard they were finecast. Whilst it would leave room for another plastic kit, I hope this isn't true.

Dark Angels are not at all on my radar, doesn't mean they aren't happening anytime soon, but I haven't heard a thing, if ghost's heard anything it is likely to do with black templars.

via Lord Commissar Aquila

4. CSM will get one of the newest dexes in 6th, right after the Marine dex.

5. Tau and BT will get a release soon after CSM; other races updated in 5th will not be updated in 6th as their rules (at least from Guard onwards) are allready suited for 6th. Ward will probably do the BT and might do Tau as well. DA will probably not be updated anytime soon, because its not a popular army and GW does not want to waste money updating one or more armies that almost no one plays with a separate dex.

via Jordankeeps

"Phill kelly is going to write the Bt codex, so that should be great oh and new units added for bt as well.

via Jared van Kell

A little but nothing solid. What I have heard.

- Phil Kelly is writing the Codex.

- More emphasis on the horde aspect of the army with lots of large units of Initiates and Neophytes.

- Emperors Champion is more in line with the company champion of the Grey Knights but is still 2 wounds. Gains preferred enemy against independent characters and monstrous creatures.

via Jared van Kell

Some additional bits.

- I forgot to mention the Rightous Zeal rule could be changing to be more along the lines of the Rage USR. Something along the lines of if they fail a Ld test then they are subject to Rage and must advance towards the nearest enemy unit. As yet the details are sketchy.

- All the current special characters (ie: Helbrect and Grimaldius) will remain. Also I had heard of an mention of a special character who is like the greatest of all of the Emperor's Champions and the greatest warrior in the Black Templars. I had heard mention of a bike mounted special character with a lance like weapon but I cannot confirm this yet. "

via superdupermatt

Certain units to get Rage USR is one I've heard repeatedly. (foolishly didn't see the first post... oops!)

Sword Brethren are to get a special rule where when they are assaulted the enemy unit has to re-roll all* successful hits, at the expense of 1 attack. It's called "parry".

Land Raiders, when suffering a 5 or 6 on the damage chart* (so "wrecked" or "destroyed") gets one more turn where it rampage, think along the lines of the machine spirit going bezerk.

No horses as far as I am aware, bikes would be the direction (if any at all) for riding knights.

There is a named Emperor's Champion, he's meant to be the longest living EC in the Black Templars history, or somesuch.

via ghost21

relic dreadnaughts, like a mobile requiary bearer... is what i had heard

expect bt to be the landraider spam army

via Marshal Laeroth

I cannot find the rumor threads stating it (there were several, but I don't have the time to search too deeply). HOWEVER, I do have a friend in the UK that actually met Phil and talked to him about that particular rumor. To which Phil confirmed. I was told that he sounded very enthusiastic about the project, but wouldn't go into details or timelines. Just that he was writing the book and the BT were coming (that could mean 2 years though).

And this which they say is from WARSEER, I didn't see it here, but I guess I missed it.

i was down the local GW today, and found some interesting stuff on black templars. so far as the internet says, they're before/after chaos space marines (or legions), before or very shortly after 6th, given that they're current incarnation won't be suitable for 6th. Anyways, what i found out was the following:

there's going to be a named emperors champion, who's old by BT standards, and has been EC for a while. long enough to be better than the standard one.

initiates will be cheaper, around 11 points, and neotyphes around 6pts. still, expect some drawbacks to this.

there'll be a new named character on a bike with eternal warrior, and also eternal warrior killer.

and possibly some dreadnought/knight style thing that fits with the rest of the army, in line with the big stuff from GK and BA.

oh, last thing, possibly some upgrade that lets land raiders be destroyed by the enemy, but still 'live' for a turn. final shoot and move, the explode in a last ditch suicide run or someut.

I got most of this from a staff member, so take it with a pinch of salt, but this guy's usually pretty accurate with stuff like this....

via Bloodcrusade

From the rumors I've been hearing it's more of something along the lines of:

1)Helbrecht(Cheaper with rules to make Sword Brethren either Scoring or Troops)

2)Grimaldus(Rules update)

3)Special Champion

4)Draco(Will be making the transfer from White Dwarf to Codex with rule amendments)

These are the *guaranteed* Special Characters with rumors of:

1) Marshal/Castellan for drop pod armies(Reminiscent of one of our own's Custom Codex, believe it was Sigismund Himself?)

2)Terminator HQ(Allows for termies as scoring or as Troops for 'BlackWing')

Haven't heard anything of being allowed to bring Bikes as Troops if your 'Captain' rides one, which I'm thankful for. There's a Chapter for that and it's White Scars.

Special Units being brought to the Codex:

1)Chaplain Dreadnought(Same reroll hits on charge, probably fealess to all units with-in 6" like Grimaldus)

2)Durandal Dreadnought(Being brought from White Dwarf into the Codex, haven't heard the rules will change- maybe one more base attack?)

3)Assault Rhino Chassis(Been rumored/hoped for a long time, whether from the Rhino or a new vehicle on it's chassis)

Изменено 22 ноября, 2012 пользователем Forvald

[Тюрьминатор]

Ничо так, что а) все эти слухи уже были б) все они нафиг устарели и В) дофига из них фейки? <_<

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Ничо так, что а) все эти слухи уже были б) все они нафиг устарели и В) дофига из них фейки? <_<

а)Rumor Compilation

б)пруф?

В)пруф?