HH-FW-4: Conquest

[Tyrael]

блин, они круты!!!!

продам душу(соседа) за строчку, что эта Ауксилария дожила до 40К.

А чего тогда в ересь не поиграться? ауксилия+союзники из ИК (для которых просто ОХРЕНИТЕЛЬНЫЙ модельный ряд) - идеальная армия с точки зрения бека и красотищи (и паверности, ИК еще тот полом).

"чтоб не быть голословным, кулак в качестве."

Изменено 17 ноября, 2014 пользователем Tyrael

[Листригон]

А чего тогда в ересь не поиграться?

сцыкотно вкладываться в армию, которая только для Ереси.

мне даже интереснее не допуск правил(уж договорюсь), а бэковая составляющая).

[MagicEngine]

сцыкотно вкладываться в армию, которая только для Ереси.

Что мешает играть Ересью против 40к?

Приезжай к нам на турнир, погоняешь.

[G-host]

"чтоб не быть голословным, кулак в качестве."

КОгда их выпустят?)) Готов сразу пару десятков купить =)

[Tyrael]

КОгда их выпустят?)) Готов сразу пару десятков купить =)

думаю, что достаточно скоро, в течении 1-2 месяцев. но с учетом того, что это грейд пак и курса фунта вам придется непофуйне разориться.

"грейд пак в качестве"

[zibits]

Щиты только не очень(

[Листригон]

Что мешает играть Ересью против 40к?

ну против Орков или Эльдар - почему нет

ну тут фигня в том, что вкладываться-то нужно полноценно, реально жаба как-то не даёт.

Приезжай к нам на турнир, погоняешь.

Питер? реденько, но бываю. Изменено 17 ноября, 2014 пользователем Листригон

[MagicEngine]

Питер? реденько, но бываю.

Томск ж

[G-host]

думаю, что достаточно скоро, в течении 1-2 месяцев. но с учетом того, что это грейд пак и курса фунта вам придется непофуйне разориться.

"грейд пак в качестве"

Разориться это относительно =) за удовольствие надо платить, п.с. щиты можно и на другие от форджи или виктории замерить =)

[Листригон]

а чего со щитами не так?

теперь я не понимаю, что с миньками.

[Corvinvs]

а чего со щитами не так?

теперь я не понимаю, что с миньками.

Отвлеченно со щитами все ОК, если же придираться, то единственное - они немного великовато-непропорциональны. Обычные щиты более гармоничны.

[Tyrael]

Человек, сказавший, чтоу него 4 книга уже на руках, запостил свой ростер.

"Тырк"

auxilla infantry tercio

- auxilla lasrifle section 157pts

-melta bomb

-blast pistol

-power sword

-troop master

-blast-chargers

- auxilla lasrifle section 142pts

-melta bomb

-blast pistol

-power sword

-blast-chargers

- auxilla lasrifle section 142pts

-melta bomb

-blast pistol

-power sword

-blast-chargers

- dracosan armoured transport 190pts

-flare shield

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted heavy flamer

- dracosan armoured transport 190pts

-flare shield

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted heavy flamer

- dracosan armoured transport 190pts

-flare shield

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted heavy flamer

auxilla infantry tercio

- auxilla infantry section 125pts

-blast chargers

-melta bombs

auxilla leman russ strike squadron

-leman russ vanquisher 215pts

-lascannon

-pintle mounted multi-laser

-armoured ceramite

-leman russ vanquisher 215pts

-lascannon

-pintle mounted multi-laser

-armoured ceramite

-leman russ vanquisher 215pts

-lascannon

-pintle mounted multi-laser

-armoured ceramite

auxilla artillery tank battery

-auxilla basilisk 190pts

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted mulit-laser

-auxilla basilisk 190pts

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted mulit-laser

-auxilla basiisk 190pts

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted mulit-laser

auxilla artillery tank battery

-auxilla medusa 205pts

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted mulit-laser

-auxilla medusa 205pts

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted mulit-laser

-auxilla medusa 205pts

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted mulit-laser

auxilla baneblade super-heavy battle tank 635pts

-armoured ceramite

-pintle mounted multi-laser

-super heavy command tank

-pair of sponsons with lascannon and TL heavy bolter each

so that adds up to 3,601pts without a HQ choice.

[Monique]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/2...st-has-shipped/

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/2...pped/?p=3865462

Изменено 19 ноября, 2014 пользователем Mona Lecter

[Tyrael]

три типа пехоты+огрины+медики у ауксилии совершенно расстроили. разнообразием легионов и не пахнет, очень похоже на попытку сбыть побольше танков.

[LolSkalatrax]

Из поста на БиЧе релики для легионов разняться от поломных этернал ворриоров и 3+ инвулей до бесполезных пистолетов с пойзоном и рендингом.

[Tyrael]

некоторые разъяснения по реликтам: релик сынов гор не дает 3++, уберпистолет взрывает на отдельный 4+.

реликт тысячников подробно:

range 12" str10*, AP3 salvo 3/6

* user enemy leadership value instead of toughness value for making to wound rolls

реликт кровавых ангелов подробно:

photonic blade str user AP2 melee, soul blaze, fleshbane, fear and blind.

Командир Ауксилии:

the background and scope of upgrades allows plenty of creative set-ups for him, ranging from rogue traders to military commanders to terran nobility. there is also a warlord trait that states that they have worked with or are rogue traders. the lord marshal may actually pick his trait (no need to roll, just pick) so can have that at all times to fluffy.

Танковый командир:

he's a HQ choice thats then put into an existing tank thats been purchased in another FoC slot.

the tank then gets BS4 and the 'command tank' rule. the vehicle may also fire overwatch and select a single USR from a list.

дракосан может брать демолишер, но тогда теряет возможность возить лазружъя

Пушка Рыцаря Стайрикс:

volkite chierorvile is 45" range, str8 ap3 heavy5,

Изменено 19 ноября, 2014 пользователем Tyrael

[VaSSis]

"Было? Обзор солярки. Прям не знаю, собрать их или ренегатов."

right will do a general overview of the entire SA list.

general things:
all infantry have 'disclipined fire' which allows them to overwatch with BS2.
'close formation fighting' gives +1WS to models with at least two other friendly models in base to base contact. all SA infantry have it.
some super heavy tanks are heavy support.
two armour sets.
-void armour, is 4+ armour with 'void hardened'
-hardened void armour, like above but with the 'hardend armour' rule as well
lasrifle is 30" range as said before. has two upgrades
-collimator, makes it heavy2, and adds 6" range
-blast charge makes the lasrifles 18" str6 ap6 heavy1, but can not shoot next turn
no hot-shot version, looks like that was a red herring.
all vehicles have 'explorator adaption' which confers void hardened and gives a 6+ invuln against blast and template attacks

headquarters.
- legate commander, is independant character with two versions, large range of wargear options.
- special character for loyalists, old commander brought out of retirement. can bring back units.
- tactical command section, 5-10 men, has bombardments, cognis sigum and other boost wargear, can take lots of special weapons.
- tank commander,

elites
- medicae detahcment, 3-6 medics attached to any other SA infantry unit, rather cheap.
- rapier battery, starts with quad-multi-laser, and can upgrade other standard options
- orgyrn charonite squad, combat only unit, with horrid CC weapon.
str+1 ap3, melee, fleshripper, fleshripper means any rolls to wound of a 6, are ap2, and cause instant death.
- enginseer auxilia, just like the taghmata ommissiah version but without the specialisations. giving them cortex controllers allows you to use a squad of thallax or castallax as optional heavy support like legion list.

troops
- techicially only a single troop choice, its the 'auxillia infantry tercio'. its made up of 1-3 'sections' any combination.
the lasrifle section is the 20 squad as standard,
- veletaris storm section is the volkite totting 10man squad. can swap volkites for rotor cannons or power axes (whole squad must be same)
- flamer section is like storm section but only flamers, has support squad rule so need at least one of the others in the tercio.
- the tercio may take 0-3 dracosan transports, or a single aegis defence line instead.
- single squad sergeant maybe upgrade to a troop master (better statline.)
dedicated transports.
- drasocan is 13,12,11 HP5. can take armoured ceramite and flare shields.
also have access to arvus orbital shuttles, with guns. no negative rule for the guns unlike the 40k era version.

fast attacks
- sentry gun battery
- leman russ strike squad, 1-3 standard, exterminator, annihilator or vanquisher leman russes, can take armoured ceramite, and usual upgrades, no sponson weaponry.
- auxilla thunderbolts. has access to kinetic piecer missiles which are str6, ap2 armourbane, can swap for hellstrike or sunfury missiles.
- primus lightning

heavy support
- leman russ assault squadron, 1-3 demolisher, executioner or incinerator leman russes, incinerator has a twin-linked demi-culverin volkite, which is the same as the normal culverin but +1str and an extra shot (5 in total), may take armoured ceramite.
- artillery tank squadron, basilisks and medusa's are 13,12,10 armour, also includes bombard. may all take armoured ceramite
- malcador heavy tank, looks to be same as legion version.
- malcador infernus
- valdor tank hunter
- 0-1 cyclops remote demolition units. 1-5 units per squad, different types of explosive. including a strD version.

lords of war
all standard options but all may take armoured ceramite
- baneblade
- stormlord
- shadowsword
- stormsword
- stormblade
- stormhammer, picture of it on page (photoshopped concept art), has a -stormhammer cannon with co-axial multi-laser, two shot, twinlinked battlecannon,6 sponson mounted multi-lasers (3 a side, can be upgraded to heavy bolters, heavy flamers or lascannons) and a single lascannon.
stormhammer cannon is 60" range str9 ap2 massive blast (7") shred and pinning.

[Tyrael]

коротко о системе создания кампаний в новой книге:

Карта построена на узловых зонах с X количеством локаций. Каждой зоне можно присвоить особенности.

Каждая команда получает Х количество ресурсов, представляющих общее количество войск.

Выигрывая бой в локации вы получаете контрольную точку в это зоне, команда с наибольшим количеством точек контролирует зону.

Кампания разделена на три фазы:

Фаза подготовки: каждая команда походово объявляет атаки на локации, противоположная команда выбирает одного из игроков, на защиту (не требует очков), эта фаза продолжается, пока не кончатся очки или игроки.

Фаза боев: отыгрываются схватки на основе предыдущей фазы.

Итоговая фаза: игроки получают контроль над локациями, персы роляют на экспу/травмы и т.п.

Это только поверхностное описание, там куча опций и возможностей. Играются миссии стратегических рейдов, боев в городе, охоты на реликты и есть миссии освобождения захваченных персонажей.

Изменено 20 ноября, 2014 пользователем Tyrael

[Monique]

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/show...Book-4-Overview

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/11/40k...ies-arrive.html

Изменено 20 ноября, 2014 пользователем Mona Lecter

[Monique]

ДААА!!!

http://battlebunnies.blogspot.co.at/2014/1...nnies-have.html

"КАРТИНКИ"

Изменено 21 ноября, 2014 пользователем Mona Lecter

[Alfаrius]

Порт Моу - жесть.

[01101001110010101010110101]

First full knight army list is here!

Someone got their Horus Heresy Conquest Book 4 early, and is spilling the beans!

via Still Standing on the BoLS Lounge

The Knight list is fantastic. As in, frekking amazing!

We have Draykavac as a HQ choice, who unlocks Castellax as compulsary Troops and Vorax as Fast Attack. His stat line is much as expected, but has neat special rule which is going to really mess anything less than a Primarch up in a challenge. You roll 2D6, subtract the targets toughness, and it takes that many AP2 wounds.

You can use it against vehicles, where it's 2D6 minus half the armour value for that many penetrating hits. He gives all Walkers, Super Heavy Walkers and MCs +1 to Charge range and Sweeping Advance rolls. His Warlord trait is Death of the Flesh, which ives everything in the detachment PE(Infantry) when within 3″ of an objective (note, not holding it, just within 3″).

You have all the expected Knights in there. They must be given a Household Rank, which moves them into a FoC slot and gives various bonus, such as the Knight must reroll failed charges and sweeping advance rolls, but must attempt to charge big stuff (Primarchs, Knights, Walkers, Super Heavy Walkers, MCs, Gargantuan Creatures) for 25 points. This is for a Fast Attack Knight. There are free ones in the Troop slot, and even one which is -35 points, but -1 WS, BS and Invulnerable save.

mech-knight-magaera1

The Styrix's is 2 Melta Bombs more than a Magaera, and has all the same rules. The main gun is Range 45″, Str 8 AP 3, Heavy 5, Deflagrate. No beam, sorry guys. His claw is the same as the Magaera.

Also, we can now upgrade out Knights Paladin to have the 40k Rapid Fire Battlecannon for free.

For those who were wondering, no you can't have a Rapid Fire Battlecannon on a Lancer (or any other Knight except the Paladin).

There are two Relics that are Mechanicum exclusive. These are a Cortex Controller which allows Cyber Theurgy to affect the whole unit, and a Str 12 Haywire attack that, if the vehicle survives, jumps to an additional 2 vehicles, continuing in this manner until there are no more targets.

No new Legion units. Each Legion has a Relic, as well as a bunch of generic ones. There are two army lists, the Knight Household and the Solar Auxiliary.

Изменено 21 ноября, 2014 пользователем 01101001110010101010110101

[Monique]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/2...pped/?p=3867747

Ok so I haven't read the campaign yet, looking at details of two factions after the drop site massacre.

Most of it is was we know, but with extra details. I afraid all we are told of the Raven Gaurd is that they headed to Terra to report (when Horus thought they would go back to Deliverance), only to leave to rebuild. Corax informs the Council of the death of Manus.

The Iron Hands mainly go mad and throw themselves into war, I derpendant BA ds of resistance such as the Red Talons are mentioned.

Salamanders mainly fight in small bands with the shattered legion, but there is mention of coherent Salmander forces, one led by the 'Phrophet of Fire'

All the legions are mentioned on brief but basically it's what Dorn knows.

There are also rummors of small warbands who were once part of the traitor legions fighting. There's were known as black shields, which is a literal description in most cases, so details are vague. However, there were groups who maintained their parent legion heraldry, such as the 34th Millennial of the EC, or Death Eagles who kept the purple and gold. Also it states that the black shields were not always Astartes, so black shield Knights anyone?

Traitors - First off the SOH and DG get a page each for tactical markings and heraldry like we saw in book III for the 4 legions.

The SoH and Death Guard subjugated the systems on the way to Terra, the SoH worked as a GC force, fighting compliance, the Death Guard were used more as a menace force/ reaper of world, I.e. destroy those who resist to much. It suggests that Horus considers the DG as his closest allies but there is mention that they may not be wholly with team Horus.

Iron Warriors are being used against the Imperial Fist Castellan forces to destroy possible centres of resistance. They join the SoH and DG as the legions I think Horus wants to spearhead the assault on Terra.

He knows he can't control the EC so he sets them loose to basically kill and, the other stuff they like to do.

It mentions he doesn't really trust the Night Lords commitment to the cause which is why they are sent to the eastern fringe, where Horus has little sway. There are 3 important Forge Worlds there and of course the DA.

Alpha Legion are used to disrupt loyalist resistance by any means they want.

[Monique]

Bad news (or good depending on your outlook) on the Raven Guard detailed in the campaign, it's part of a void battle, and they are either captured ships or more probally, traitor Ravens, working with the Sons of Horus.

Больше предательских Воронов!

[Corvinvs]

Больше предательских Воронов!

Ну, это они продолжают тему того, что мол XIX-й долгое время с SoH тусовался и Гора уважал сильно. Вероятно - это те, то был более верен Гору, чем Кораксу и не погиб у Врат 42 в свое время. Но вообще конечно свинство полнейшее, лучше бы они няшу Шароукина запилили, а не альфариньем занимались.