Gosha_Cruz

у меня там психосиловое стоит, с мгновенной смертью и ударом S6 АР4) тоже полезная вещь

а разве с силой как у волшебника она не бесполезна? там же сила как у модельки а у волшебника 4 сила! удар S4 AP4 норм разве или я чего то не понимаю?

+++ NURGL (1494pts) +++ ++ Chaos Space Marines: Crimson Slaughter (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1494pts) ++ + HQ (390pts) + Sorcerer (210pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Daemonheart (30pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts), Warlord] Sorcerer (180pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Power Armour, Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts)] + Elites (203pts) + Plague Marines (203pts) [Veteran of the long war (3pts)] ····Chaos Rhino (35pts) [Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers] ····Plague Champion (39pts) [blight Grenades, Bolt Pistol, Krak Grenades, Plague Knife, Plasma Pistol (15pts)] ····2x Plague Marine (48pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ····2x Plague Marine with Special weapon (78pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ········2x Plasma Gun (30pts) [2x Bolt pistol] + Troops (100pts) + Chaos Cultists (50pts) [9x autopistol loadout, 9x Cultists in unit (36pts)] Chaos Cultists (50pts) [9x autopistol loadout, 9x Cultists in unit (36pts)] + Fast Attack (350pts) + Chaos Spawn (180pts) [Mark of Nurgle (30pts), 5x Spawn (150pts)] Heldrake (170pts) [baleflamer] + Heavy Support (451pts) + Havocs (135pts) [Aspiring Champion (23pts), 2x Autocannon (20pts), 4x Havoc (52pts), 2x Lascannon (40pts)] Obliterators (152pts) [Mark of Nurgle (12pts), 2x Obliterator (140pts), Veterans of the Long War (6pts)] Obliterators (152pts) [Mark of Nurgle (12pts), 2x Obliterator (140pts), Veterans of the Long War (6pts)] почитал все что наисали, и согласился что одним сорком много не наделаешь, а полностью от магии отказываться глупо. и еще такой вопрос многии говорят о девинации но сорк ее не знает или это последствие слатера?

спавны без инвиза, полягут при первой же атаки! что их спасет тогда сейв 4+? наврятли( так что от магии отказываться глупо

ну про марку это я давно понял! я тебя правильно понимаю ты советуешь взять двух сорков?

А где об этом можно почитать????

а можно по подробней на счет нурглитского детача

+++ NURGLE (1376pts) +++ ++ Chaos Space Marines: Crimson Slaughter (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1394pts) ++ + HQ (365pts) + Chaos Lord (150pts) [bike (20pts), Lightning Claws (15pts), Power Armour, Power Fist (25pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts)] Sorcerer (215pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Daemonheart (30pts), Mark of Nurgle (15pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts), Warlord] + Troops (250pts) + Chaos Cultists (50pts) [9x Cultists in unit (36pts), Heavy Weapon upgrade] Plague Marines (Troops) (200pts) ····Chaos Rhino (35pts) [Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers] ····Plague Champion (39pts) [blight Grenades, Boltgun, Krak Grenades, Lightning claw (15pts), Plague Knife] ····2x Plague Marine (48pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ····2x Plague Marine with Special weapon (78pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ········2x Plasma Gun (30pts) [2x Bolt pistol] + Fast Attack (180pts) + Chaos Spawn (180pts) [Mark of Nurgle (30pts), 5x Spawn (150pts)] + Heavy Support (599pts) + Havocs (125pts) [Aspiring Champion (23pts), 3x Autocannon (30pts), 4x Havoc (52pts), Lascannon (20pts)] Obliterators (228pts) [Mark of Nurgle (18pts), 3x Obliterator (210pts), Veteran of the long war (9pts)] Obliterators (228pts) [Mark of Nurgle (18pts), 3x Obliterator (210pts), Veteran of the long war (9pts)] вот поправил, осталось порядка 100 очков! увы ни аегиса, ни бастиона у меня нет) да и у нас в принцепи без сооружений играют) может Хавокам лазки еще дать? тогда к ним слишком большое внимание привлечется! и куда эти 100 очков девать

+++ NURGLE (1451pts) +++ ++ Chaos Space Marines: Crimson Slaughter (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1499pts) ++ + HQ (410pts) + Chaos Lord (195pts) [bike (20pts), Daemonheart (30pts), Lightning Claws (15pts), Mark of Nurgle (15pts), Power Fist (25pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts)] Sorcerer (215pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Daemonheart (30pts), Mark of Nurgle (15pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts)] + Troops (313pts) + Chaos Cultists (50pts) [9x Cultists in unit (36pts), Heavy Weapon upgrade] Plague Marines (Troops) (215pts) ····Chaos Rhino (35pts) [Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers] ····Plague Champion (54pts) [blight Grenades, Krak Grenades, Lightning claw (15pts), Plague Knife, Plasma Pistol (15pts)] ····2x Plague Marine (48pts) [4x Blight Grenades, 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Krak Grenades, 4x Plague knife] ····2x Plague Marine with Special weapon (78pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ········2x Plasma Gun (30pts) [2x Bolt pistol] + Fast Attack (180pts) + Chaos Spawn (180pts) [Mark of Nurgle (30pts), 5x Spawn (150pts)] + Heavy Support (596pts) + Havocs (140pts) [Aspiring Champion (23pts), 3x Autocannon (30pts), 4x Havoc (52pts), Lascannon (20pts), Mark of Nurgle (15pts)] Obliterators (152pts) [Mark of Nurgle (12pts), 2x Obliterator (140pts)] Obliterators (152pts) [Mark of Nurgle (12pts), 2x Obliterator (140pts)] Obliterators (152pts) [Mark of Nurgle (12pts), 2x Obliterator (140pts)] изменил согласно твоим советом, что теперь скажешь??

+++ NURGLE (1237pts) +++ ++ Chaos Space Marines: Crimson Slaughter (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) (737pts) ++ + HQ (170pts) + Chaos Lord (170pts) [bike (20pts), Daemonheart (30pts), Lightning Claws (15pts), Mark of Nurgle (15pts), Power Fist (25pts)] + Troops (215pts) + Plague Marines (Troops) (263pts) ····Chaos Rhino (35pts) Plague Champion (54pts) [blight Grenades, Krak Grenades, Lightning claw (15pts), Plague Knife, Plasma Pistol (15pts)] ····2x Plague Marine (96pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ····2x Plague Marine with Special weapon (78pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ········2x Plasma Gun (30pts) [2x Bolt pistol] + Heavy Support (304pts) + Obliterators (152pts) [Mark of Nurgle (12pts), 2x Obliterator (140pts)] Obliterators (152pts) [Mark of Nurgle (12pts), 2x Obliterator (140pts)] ++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Combined Arms Detachment) (500pts) ++ + HQ (210pts) + Sorcerer (210pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Mark of Nurgle (15pts), Power Armour, Power Fist (25pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts)] + Troops (110pts) + Chaos Cultists (55pts) [Heavy Stubber (5pts)] Chaos Cultists (55pts) [Heavy Stubber (5pts)] + Fast Attack (180pts) + Chaos Spawn (180pts) [Mark of Nurgle (30pts), 5x Spawn (150pts)] прошу помощи у опытных Хаоситов! Формат игры будет на 1500 очков, что попытался сам собрать ( выше представленный ростер и является плодом моих попыток) но хотелось услышать АДЕКВАТНУЮ КРИТИКУ ( а лучше с советами и пояснениями!!!) . Интересно услышать как с пользой можно потратить оставшиеся очки! и еще хотелось узнать как в слотере можно у Лорда 4++ сделать ? и что в данном ростере будет умесней ДЕВЕНАЦИЯ или ТЕЛЕПАТИЯ. Игорк я новый но очень уж затягивает)))

++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Combined Arms Detachment) (750pts) ++ + HQ (390pts) + Sorcerer (195pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Power Fist (25pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts), Warlord] Sorcerer (195pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Power Armour, Power Fist (25pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts)] + Troops (100pts) + Chaos Cultists (50pts) [9x Cultists in unit (36pts)] ····Cultist Champion (14pts) [Auto Pistol] Chaos Cultists (50pts) [9x Cultists in unit (36pts)] ····Cultist Champion (14pts) [Auto Pistol] · + Fast Attack (120pts) + Chaos Spawn (120pts) [4x Spawn (120pts)] + Heavy Support (140pts) + Obliterators (140pts) [2x Obliterator (140pts)] вот такой небольшой ростер, скоро турнир хотелось бы услышать мнение, адекватную критику, и может даже дельные советы

А поподробней можно?я новичек)

Все исправил! Теперь жду адeкватной критики и оценки)

+++ CSM(1498pts) +++ ++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1498pts) ++ + HQ (425pts) + Sorcerer (215pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Burning Brand of Skalanthrax (30pts), Mark of Nurgle (15pts), Power Armour, Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts)] Sorcerer (210pts) [2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Mark of Nurgle (15pts), Plasma Pistol (15pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts), Warlord] + Elites (395pts) + Plague Marines (205pts) ····Chaos Rhino (40pts) [Combi-bolter, Dozer Blade (5pts), Searchlight, Smoke launchers] ····Plague Champion (39pts) [blight Grenades, Bolt Pistol, Krak Grenades, Plague Knife, Plasma Pistol (15pts)] ····2x Plague Marine (48pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ····2x Plague Marine with Special weapon (78pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ········2x Plasma Gun (30pts) [2x Bolt pistol] Plague Marines (190pts) ····Chaos Rhino (40pts) [Combi-bolter, Dozer Blade (5pts), Searchlight, Smoke launchers] ····Plague Champion (34pts) [blight Grenades, Bolt Pistol, Combi-weapon (10pts), Krak Grenades, Plague Knife] ····2x Plague Marine (48pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ····2x Plague Marine with Special weapon (68pts) [2x Blight Grenades, 2x Krak Grenades, 2x Plague knife] ········2x Meltagun (20pts) [2x Bolt pistol] + Troops (100pts) + Chaos Cultists (50pts) [9x Cultists in total, 9x Cultists with autopistols (36pts)] Chaos Cultists (50pts) [9x Cultists in total, 9x Cultists with autopistols (36pts)] + Fast Attack (350pts) + Chaos Spawn (180pts) [Mark of Nurgle (30pts), 5x Spawn (150pts)] Heldrake (170pts) [baleflamer] ········Baleflamer: Range:Template|Strength:6|AP:3|Type:Heavy 1, Soul Blaze, Torrent + Heavy Support (228pts) + Obliterators (228pts) [Mark of Nurgle (18pts), 3x Obliterator (210pts)]