он не появился. выяснили, что релиза миньки не будет. просто это испанец гвшник слепил, и выставили на испанском геймсдэе

Поскорей бы
Надеюсь эту мразь слаанскую пофиксят...
Уж очень он тревожный

Нормальный он. Уж всяко не хуже новых вампов.
Скорее всего пофиксят саламандр. А это не айс.

с вомпирами можно вполне успешно бороться. слан 2 генерации в гардах боится лишь ОЧЕНЬ сильного хтх, которое вампиров просто наматывает и вращает на )))). а слан его просто боится...

вот чего очень жду, дак превращения терадонов в флаинг кавальри... и мы проводим последний реликтовый 6рочный чит)

Сланн в гардах - это 900 с гаком очков. Учитывая количество стрельбы у тебя в армии, я вообще не понимаю, что ты жалуешься. Даже учитывая возможный второй вард у сланна.

Rumours from Warseer, supplier Thedarkgeneral:

As always please apply large pinch of salt.

Quote:
Some more info I was fed, not sure how accurate any of it is...

*Temple Guard: The 0-1 choice per Slaan will be gone, though you won't be able to bring an entire army of them...maybe 1 per 1 Saurus unit? Also can have upgrade (or come with it?) that all their Attacks count as Magical!

*Terradons: Cheaper, still Unit Strength 1, 2 Spawnings available to them (Quetzel/Sotek).

*Saurus Warriors: 2 pts cheaper, Magical Banner for 1 unit if you're lead by Saurus Old Blood (as general), one of the Spawnings is changing-move through Difficult/Woods as if it were open.

*Saurus Cav: 4 pts cheaper, can take one Spawning only, limited to Quetzel, Sotek, and 2 others...

Please take it all with some salt on the side.

Army wide rule:
Jungle Fighter: All models move through jungle, woods, and forest as open ground and do not suffer any penalty. (Excluding Mounts)

Spawnings:

There are no changes for Chotec rule

Sotek:
For units: They get +1 A on the turn they charge.
For Characters: Frenzy (still have to take test for Stupidity)

Xthol: 5+ ward, in addition, If:
For units: they use this mark during the battle phase, then they can choose only one Save "Scaly skin or this"
For characters: If they cannot save a wound, then the unit that attacks the character with this mark take S4 hit on a D6
Limited to; Saurus Warriors, Temple guards, Skinks (skirmesher/cohorts) and Saurus Calvary.

Tzunki: +1 I in addition, If:
For units: They become aquatic and doesn't suffer any penelty for walking on water.
For characters: They become aquatic and have First strike rules (possible, not sure.)
Limited to; Saurus Warriors, Temple guards, Skinks (skirmesher), and Kroxigors.

Huanchi: +1 WS
Limited to; Saurus Warriors, Temple guards, Skinks (skirmesher/cohorts), Saurus Calvary, and Kroxigors.
Note: you cannot take up the same blessed mark in the same unit.

Ruling of how blessed mark is taken:
Not all units can they up to two, for some they can up to one (i.e Saurus Calvary) while other can take up to three (unknown). If they take one, they stay as core/special. If they take up two, they move to special/rare.

Странно слухи новые появляються, а тема в застое)).

Как думаете жабам новую мегашколу таки дадут?

Пластиковый Стегадон в трех опциях - для редкого слота, для специального слота и для опции скакуна (rare, special and mount option). Новые Кроксигоры (Kroxigors).

The book is supposedly out in febuary / march 2009. It is not known who is writing it.


New models:
- plastic Kroxigor, unknown how many per box
- plastic Temple Guard, assume 10 per box if it happens
- plastic Stegadon, 1 per box with options for all three variants
- metal Terradons, unknown number per blister/box
- some new metal models, including some characters


Blessed Spawnings
These seem to take on a bigger role in the list. It is not know how they will work, if taking them makes a unit more scarce or if it will be like Marks of Chaos in that it's just an upgrade and doesn't change if a unit is Core, Special or Rare.

Spawning of Huanchi: +1 WS and move through cover with no penalty
Spawning of Sotek:
Spawning of Chotec:
Spawning of Quetzl:
Spawning of Tlazcotl:
Spawning of Tepok:
Spawning of Tzunki:


Army-wide special rule - Cold-blooded
Rumoured to change significantly, though this is still unconfirmed. Supposedly they roll the same number of dice as everyone else for Ld tests (i.e. 2), but any double counts as Insane Courage and will be an auto-pass regardless of any other factors (modifiers, outnumbered by Fear, etc.).


Lore of the Old Ones
- Slanns only
- spells all of the high cost / high effect type


Magic items
Charm of the Jaguar Warrior is dropped




Lords

Slann
- speculated to get a spell lore of their own

Saurus Oldblood
- may be mounted on a Stegadon


Heroes

Saurus Scar-Veteran
- may be mounted on a Stegadon

Skink Chief
- may be mounted on a Stegadon

Skink Priest
- may be mounted on an Engine of the Gods


Character mounts

Engine of the Gods (Skink Priest only)
- if it is anything like it was in the Lustria book it is a weaker Stegadon with a war machine-like weapon on top
- takes up an additional Hero choice

Stegadon
- any(?) character may ride a Stegadon
- takes up an additional Hero choice



Core
There is much speculation on whether there will be additional core units (ranked skinks or skink fast cavalry), though nothing confirmed

Saurus Warriors
- 1 or 2 pts cheaper
- scaly skin save is rumoured to be going back to 5+, like it was in 5th edition

Skink Skirmishers
- can get Spawnings

Temple Guard
- cheaper
- can get Spawnings

Jungle Swarms


Special

Saurus Cavalry
- 4 pts cheaper
- can get Spawnings

Kroxigor
- new set of plastic models
- get light armour in addition to their scaly skin
- can get Spawnings

Stegadon
- new plastic model
- moved from Rare to Special

Terradons
- new (metal) models

Cameleon Skinks

Salamander Hunting Packs
- moved from Rare to Special
- now use the breath weapon template instead of the artillery dice
- stats of the attack not known
- not known whether you can still form units of more than one pack (having a monsters and handlers unit with multiple monsters is a bit tricky ruleswise)
Rare

Ancient Stegadon
- somewhat altered stats compared to the regular Steggy
- has a different weapon than the bolt thrower the normal Steggy has

Spinodon Hunting Pack
- a new kind of dinosaur unit, presumably also herded by skinks
- fires spikes that has a number of shots equal to the roll on an artillery dice, that roll to his using BS 4, not known if it ingores any of the normal to-hit modifiers
- when standing and shooting it gets two artillery dice worth of shots
- might be an attachment to a Salamander unit, or it might be a separate unit


Special characters

Lord Kroak (Slann)

Kroq-Gar (Saurus Lord)

Nakai the Wanderer (Kroxigor Hero(?))

Tenehauin (Skink Lord/Hero)


4 more characters. Unknow if they will be like the Daemons or Warriors of Chaos book, where they were mainly new, or like the Vampire Counts, Dark Elves or High Elves where they were mainly old


Rumoured rules
Often talked about are:
- Spawnings becoming more widespread and available to more units (like in the Sacred Spawning variant lists)
- Ranked Skink units (like in the Lustria book) and possibly with Kroxigors added (like in 5th edition)
- Skink Horned One Riders (like in the Lustria book)
- a separate Lore for Slann
- more mount options for Skink characters (like in 5th edition)

А как вам идея масс стегадонства?

А как вам идея масс стегадонства?

А как вам идея масс стегадонства?

Все остальные рассы кроме своей магии могут брать ещё и общедоступные. Эта абилка у сланна останется?

похоже пеший заурус станет совсем неактуален без ягуара.

Интересно они разнообразили magic items - дропнули самый востребованный факт

Интересно они разнообразили magic items - дропнули самый востребованный факт

для того, чтобы придумать что то новое, интересное, не обязательно дропать старое

вот остануться ли покаления и в каком виде меня куда более беспокоит.

Не верю я во вменямого скинко жреца(одиночного)((((.

Очень чёткая тенденция - дали даркам 2+ варду за 35 очей. Это не достаточно ультимативно?

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а вампирам дали тот же ягуар, только называется подругому и стоит 10 очей. Где же тут тенденция?

LIZARDMEN KROXIGOR $20.00 FEBRUARY 09
TIKTAQ’TO, MASTER OF SKIES $17.00 FEBRUARY 09
LIZARDMEN BARBED RAZORDON HUNTING PARTY $25.00 FEBRUARY 09
LIZARDMEN SCAR VETERAN WITH ARMY STANDARD $15.00 FEBRUARY 09
CHAKAX, ETERNITY WARDEN $15.00 FEBRUARY 09
LIZARDMEN TERRADON $17.00 FEBRUARY 09

Я их не вижу в росписках(.

Разве что бут нормальные предметы скинк онли и скинку датут скинковскую школу))(мегадешёвую)

Желание манча пагубно, люди не хотят видеть как играют другие юниты кроме ноубрейнерских.(((

У дарков не два плюс варда(есть автовундв магией и 3 сила, вполне себе убивает)
Вампирский герой в хтх слабее заврового, не говоря уже о том что заврового героя скорее всего усилят.
С Narval'ом согласен, и иедя мне тоже кажеться пральной.
Лист вполе норамален с учётом марок и различных подификаций юнитов.
Сланн скорее всего сможет брать все школы(из рульбука), а вот остануться ли покаления и в каком виде меня куда более беспокоит.
Из маг предметов боюсь тока за диадему и хуанчи))